What the hell did Blizzard do to the original concepts of the Orcish Horde?

[Hardtime]

I mean what the hell! Have you seen the new models? I have to say I was impressed at first with the new Grom Hellscream, but when I saw Blackhand and the others? Damnnnnn I was shocked xD Blackhand looked like an Iron Man with an Ogre's head! And while the Hellscream thing was awesome, he looked nothing like his old self. Well somewhat, he looked like his Warcraft 2 counterpart.
Comparison:

Warcraft 2 Hellscream

Hellscream we know

New 'Past' Hellscream

See what I mean? I guess plastic surgery is around in the Warcraft universe. They never keep a permanent look. A perfect example of this is what they did to Thrall.
Comparison:

'thrall' Thrall

Warchief Thrall

Monkey Thrall

Far Seer-like Thrall

Shaolin Monk Thrall

Please comment what you think below xD

 

[Chaosy]

1. graphic updates. Do you want WoD to look like WC2?

2. age, the characters age and therefore they will look slightly different.

3. people CAN change hairstyle and clothes you know.

I don't think they look very different.

 

[takakenji]

wtf is this ? they look the same

and also the only reason blackhand is a walking furnace is to show his industrialization. WoD is an alternate timeline, it is not the main lore. do ppl on hive even kno wat WoD is about jesus so many ppl asking shit like this

 

[Zaramorus]

Monkey Thrall is so funny looking.

 

[Eagle XI]

No plastics involved, 100% magic. On a second thought "Cosmological surgery" could actually replace barbershop fully.

 

[Kino]

To be fair, the vanilla WoW look doesn't count since it is a shared model with all male orcs.

 

[Hardtime]

wtf is this ? they look the same

I'm just saying that they could've at least tried to model them after their original counterparts and they're not the same.

Comparison

Original Hellscream

WoD Hellscream

 

[Chen]

Comparison

Original Hellscream

WoD Hellscream

Demonic Fitness. The Legion don't want fat orcs. But of course, age and people can change something in their bodies and faces duh.

 

[takakenji]

grom still looks pretty similiar they just beefed him up

 

[gorillabull]

yes grom has the same look throughout all the content, because he is a major character that everyone knows. characters like blackhand have really not existed in the game so that gives bliz some creative freedom although not a lot. i think that blizzard should stay away from creativity and stick to its old content tho, maybe just visual wise

 

[Heinvers]

btw What's wrong with Blizzard? ;x putting rings on teeth :O wut wut wut, too much bling bling. Yes, Grom is still his old self though ;D

 

[Justicebringer]

Thrall is fine imo because
he became a peace-nature-peace-yolo
hippi kind of guy long ago. But yeah, Im
dissapointed in Grom.

 

[Hardtime]

Nahh not only that. His voice is nowhere similar to what they described the high-pitched bone-chilling voice he once had. His voice fits more with Blackhand rather than Hellscream. They should give him a voice similar to Garrosh's or close enough to resemble his voice in Warcraft 3. Like Thrall for example, even though they changed voice actors with different interpretations of his voice, his voice still has the same vibe he had since the release of Warcraft 3.

And lorewise, they were at the wrong location when Grom refused to drink the demonic blood. They were supposed to be at the Temple of Karabor's courtyard and the it was supposed to be a pool, not some bucket in the middle of the Tanaan Jungle but I guess they're not wrong about it since it's an alternate timeline after all.

 

[chr2]

And lorewise, they were at the wrong location when Grom refused to drink the demonic blood. They were supposed to be at the Temple of Karabor's courtyard and the it was supposed to be a pool, not some bucket in the middle of the Tanaan Jungle but I guess they're not wrong about it since it's an alternate timeline after all.

The orcs originally drank the blood of Mannoroth atop the mountain known as the Throne of Kil'jaeden, which was located in, what would then have been, Tanaan Jungle. I'm guessing this is where the cinematic takes place too.

Also, I'm pretty sure "Monkey Thrall" never made it to the live servers (and if he did, his model was updated very quickly). Nonetheless, that particular look of his shouldn't be considered canon.

 

[Hardtime]

The orcs originally drank the blood of Mannoroth atop the mountain known as the Throne of Kil'jaeden, which was located in, what would then have been, Tanaan Jungle. I'm guessing this is where the cinematic takes place too.

Well I guess Blizzard did it yet again! xD screwed up some lore. It states on the WoWwiki site that they drank it on the Throne of Kil'jaeden but in the Rise of the Horde novel, it's stated there that it was done on the Temple of Karabor's courtyard pool.

 

[Chen]

Well I guess Blizzard did it yet again! xD screwed up some lore. It states on the WoWwiki site that they drank it on the Throne of Kil'jaeden but in the Rise of the Horde novel, it's stated there that it was done on the Temple of Karabor's courtyard pool.

Blame Christie Golden.

 

[Heinvers]

Blame Chris Metzen.

*coughs*

 

[Hardtime]

People really can't get lore straighten out if they keep changing it.

 

[Chen]

I've spent my life studying the timeways. If you try to count and compare blades of grass, you'll drive yourself mad, he had said. My plans require a few… favorable conditions, and we'll find them here. This is the perfect timeway for us. Not a perfect mirror image, but perfect nonetheless.

I knew it! Kairoz said that the WoD Draenor is not a perfect copy of the original, so if there are lore changes, it may be because of him. And Temple of Karabor's courtyard pool may not be a suitable place for them in this timeline.

Bunny, Blame them both.

 

[Hardtime]

Oh right, I forgot about that. Just like when Thrall was trapped inside different timeways where Taretha and Blackmoore were alive. And I also completely ignored that the Infinite Dragonflight was messing around with the timeways but the weird thing is, how can they make portals to a past Draenor when they were based and created on Azeroth?

And how did they merge the Draenor portal and the modern Azeroth portal together? Don't they need mages and warlocks and some kind of Bronze/Infinite Dragon on the other side to be able to do that? It doesn't seem possible for the Dragonmaw to do it since the Alliance and the Horde are guarding the Dark Portal.

 

[Zaramorus]

I think they will create new portal in Azeroth since the old one will remain for Outland.

 

[Hardtime]

No they wont It's completely crazy to build another one. It's either the Iron Horde will enter through the original Dark Portal and the way to Outland will be transferred to the Caverns of Time, or vice-versa.

 

[chr2]

Oh right, I forgot about that. Just like when Thrall was trapped inside different timeways where Taretha and Blackmoore were alive. And I also completely ignored that the Infinite Dragonflight was messing around with the timeways but the weird thing is, how can they make portals to a past Draenor when they were based and created on Azeroth?

And how did they merge the Draenor portal and the modern Azeroth portal together? Don't they need mages and warlocks and some kind of Bronze/Infinite Dragon on the other side to be able to do that? It doesn't seem possible for the Dragonmaw to do it since the Alliance and the Horde are guarding the Dark Portal.

Kairoz used the Vision of Time to teleport himself and Garrosh to Draenor in War Crimes, and in doing so shattered the Vision. In the short story Hellscream we learn that Kairoz brought a shard of the Vision with them to Draenor, and since it's connected to the remaining shards on Azeroth, it serves as the link between the two worlds/dimensions. Also, the Iron Horde captures Gul'dan and they use his magic to fuel the portal.
How they got to Draenor to begin with, I'm not sure, but the Vision of Time was a pretty powerful artifact.

Oh, and yeah, the Dark Portal will lead to Draenor.

 

[Heinvers]

Didn't Garrosh stab Kairoz with a shard of it? Pretty sneaky

How they got to Draenor to begin with

Remains to be seen later.

Oh, and yeah, the Dark Portal will lead to Draenor.

Altered wormhole or something I assume.

 

[Vinz]

The interpretations of Grom change, they saw an opportunity in turning him back to a Mag'har.