What do you guys think about dota and icefrog?

[Dballx]

just any thoughts you may have, ill post my opinion later

 

[Zwiebelchen]

I guess you can say that DOTA is one of the main reasons for the commercial success of WC3. I guess the community wouldn't be what it is today if it weren't for that single map.

 

[Heinvers]

I guess you can say that DOTA is one of the main reasons for the commercial success of WC3. I guess the community wouldn't be what it is today if it weren't for that single map.

I totally agree. Although the branching out did helped it a bit. Just imagine no DotA map, then not DotA2. simple

 

[Rheiko]

yes, but i'm really pissed off when people can't differ DotA and wc3

 

[Heinvers]

WUT? there's no such thing like confusing them 0_o (I mean you must be quite stupid/no pun intended/ to make a confusion between those 2).

 

[Rheiko]

i agree, but people in my country (at least in my city), they can't differ them
geez, it's killing me to explain it to them

 

[Heinvers]

try using a rocket launcher aimed at them (then show them), see what you achieve (no pun intended)

 

[Rheiko]

they even call the other maps as DotA -_-
Naruto map for example, DotA Naruto..

 

[Heinvers]

LOL. It's that bad? they must be really one sided then (someone needs to shove them into their heads a bit of gaming difference). Lemme guess, even Tides of War or Iceborn is DotA o_0

 

[Rheiko]

yup.

 

[Duke]

I like warcraft DotA but DotA 2's art style is just plain ugly.

 

[Heinvers]

Too cartoonish for your tastes DukeCz?

 

[chobibo]

yes, but i'm really pissed off when people can't differ DotA and wc3

You'll get used to it, don't worry. I used to be an adventurer... I mean pissed when the local playerbase here did that too. Instead of explaining them the difference, I just tell them "You cut class again, didn't you?".

 

[Duke]

Too cartoonish for your tastes DukeCz?

Original is cartoonish as well. It's just that in warcraft there are those great ideas like samurai orc, minotaur creature with big log or monster sewed up from different bodies, buttefly dragon... but dota 2 feels like it's just some random ugly guys with no originality. It's hard to explain

 

[Heinvers]

Oh, like stolen ideas you mean. You need some solid story too I guess.

 

[Duke]

Stolen is not exactly what I mean. More like when they were designing the hero, it feels to me they just said: ,,Give him some mask, cape, staff and we are done.'' They are weird and there is just nothing interesting about them. Look at Rubick. What the hell is he supposed to be? I understand that they had it harder because there was not some world or story they could follow, but they could at least set a theme so heroes are not so random.

But that's just my opinion. I know that lot of people don't agree with me on this.
I've also grown up on warcraft so I am a bit biased

 

[Adiktuz]

I actually liked the hero design of Rubick in DotA 2... One hero design there that I have mixed feelings with is Leviathan... and oh well, I don't like how simple Laguna Blade's model is... haha

but on-topic... hmmmm... Why DotA and IceFrog? why not start with DotA and Eul, then DotA and Guinsoo, then finally DotA and IceFrog?

 

[Razer!X]

i agree, but people in my country (at least in my city), they can't differ them
geez, it's killing me to explain it to them

I certainly know that feel bro.

 

[KneelBeforeDod]

I think it's great that Dota exists. Without it Heroes of Newerth wouldn't have released. Am I the only Hon:er here?

 

[Rheiko]

i heard Guinsoo is employed in making League of Legends? i just know this recently

 

[Dr Super Good]

I do not care about someone who may or may not be able to map but who struck it lucky.

 

[gorillabull]

i wonder what he is doing for valve because he barely knew gui

 

[Dr Super Good]

Probably just endorsing the product and acting as a product tester. Either that or he has improved himself over the last half-dozen years so he actually does know programming, computers or art.

 

[Adiktuz]

Maybe he's just there to see what they're doing

 

[Zwiebelchen]

Probably just endorsing the product and acting as a product tester. Either that or he has improved himself over the last half-dozen years so he actually does know programming, computers or art.

Which is more than likely.

 

[BLazeKraze]

Because of dota, Warcraft 3 became successful . But In the Philippines, the Warcraft 3 Frozen Throne called "dotA" by many players and I hate to heard that shit , I said to them that dota is a custom map only for warcraft 3 . They don't know the melee maps, the rpg maps, and other map genres . And also, the other's maps ignored because of dotA ... I think it's time to play other's map . I saw many awesome AOS maps here and also from the other site .

 

[Razer!X]

Because of dota, Warcraft 3 became successful . But In the Philippines, the Warcraft 3 Frozen Throne called "dotA" by many players and I hate to heard that shit , I said to them that dota is a custom map only for warcraft 3 . They don't know the melee maps, the rpg maps, and other map genres . And also, the other's maps ignored because of dotA ... I think it's time to play other's map . I saw many awesome AOS maps here and also from the other site .

I know that feel. I too have experienced that. And most of my friends keep telling me to stop making maps because dota is already there. And also most of them think they know more about warcraft than me even though they've never searched deeper into warcraft 3.

 

[BLazeKraze]

I know that feel. I too have experienced that. And most of my friends keep telling me to stop making maps because dota is already there. And also most of them think they know more about warcraft than me even though they've never searched deeper into warcraft 3.

yes, I'm telling to my friends that I am a modder of warcraft and I know many things, Some of my friends don't know the editor and any aspects of warcraft 3 , But I have a some friends that know the warcraft but they don't like to make maps or creating resources .

 

[JCarrill0]

I just wish maps that are hero battle were not called dota style. If anything they are AOS style from starcraft.

I know some cool maps like ToB, and AoZ/DoE and I get asked "oh is this dota style map?"
Grrr

 

[Razer!X]

They even call campaign maps ''dota'' -_-