Smoking

[kakuzu]

Do you smoke guys ? If yes , why ?

 

[Celaquil]

Why would you want to know that?
Are you considering it?

If so, don't. This coming from one that does.

 

[Chaosy]

Never have, never will.

Costs money, ruins your health, doesn't taste that amazing (according to friends) sounds pretty stupid to me.

 

[Heinvers]

Nope.

I can buy chocolate with that money, wops...

 

[Zombie]

10-15 cigs a day.

 

[Deleted member 219079]

Do you smoke guys ? If yes , why ?

No.

10-15 cigs a day.

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If yes , why ?

 

[Zombie]

Why not?

 

[Heinvers]

'cause your lungs will fall off and you'll die in agony.

 

[Vinz]

Costs money, ruins your health, doesn't taste that amazing (according to friends) sounds pretty stupid to me.

This. Like drugs.

On a side note drugs are useful when they're actually needed, not when you're addicted to them.

 

[Heinvers]

not when you're addicted to them

Drugs are the sauce, they're good...

 

[Kasrkin]

Hidden

I'm not sorry.

 

[Zombie]

'cause your lungs will fall off and you'll die in agony.

At least I'll be awesome like this while I live

 

[chobibo]

I don't, because I need the money to buy erotic magazines. I'm on a different kind of vice.

 

[Kasrkin]

I don't, because I need the money to buy erotic magazines. I'm on a different kind of vice.

Hidden

 

[Zombie]

I don't, because I need the money to buy erotic magazines. I'm on a different kind of vice.

Because buying erotic magazines in the world of free internet porn surely is a smarter way of spending money.

 

[chobibo]

Yes, just like how spending to get your lungs ejected is too.

 

[Zombie]

Yes, just like how spending to get your lungs ejected is too.

 

[Kasrkin]

 

[kakuzu]

Smocking is bad and give adiction and it is very unhealthy . Even if i want , i cant because i am a football player.

 

[Deleted member 219079]

Smoking is a decision an individual makes.

In late -13 I made a threat "Disliking others' youtube comments", where I made a conclusion on handling unjusticeful situations: "If it's avoidable, avoid it".

Let's apply it onto "Should I start smoking?":
Saying no to smoking because it's avoidable is not enough. We don't know which one is the justiceful decision; to smoke or not to smoke. For me at least, I've been taught at school that smoking is unhealthy, so I know it's justiceful not to smoke. So in this case the unjusticeful decision, to smoke, is avoidable, I should avoid it.

How about on "Should I tell my friend to stop smoking?":
Telling your friend to stop because you don't value it is not justiceful, it's selfish: you're applying your own set of values into his perspective, and you should never do so. We all value things individually, so the chance of someone justifying smoking is very high. First you should know whether (s)he values smoking, or is that person just addicted and can't find healthier source of the addicting matter. If it's the first one, you should respect his/her decision, if it's the latter one, you should try to help him/her in some way.

 

[Vinz]

There is also cancerous thirdhand smoke, which clings to objects near the smoker.

 

[Zombie]

There is also cancerous thirdhand smoke, which clings to objects near the smoker.

Yeah, we smokers are like walking corpses with an infectious aura of death around everything we touch.

I think we should wear identification badges so that people don't get 5 meters within our deadly emission, we should also be forbidden to use pavements.

 

[Heinvers]

Yeah, we smokers are like walking corpses with an infectious aura of death around everything we touch.

It's not that bad you know, just as long you keep your breath to you. Gum is a fine friend.

I think we should wear identification badges so that people don't get 5 meters within our deadly emission

All's good if you consult your doctor once in awhile to check up if one of your lungs is still in one piece.

 

[PROXY]

I do smoke when going out, quite much in that time.

I'm not proud of it, I play football too, but meh.

 

[kakuzu]

I do smoke when going out, quite much in that time.

I'm not proud of it, I play football too, but meh.

Just curious , you play football for fun or in competitions ?

 

[PROXY]

In a normal football club since 11 years.

 

[LordDz]

Did smoke for a while "party smoking." Decided to quit, haven't touched cig since then.

 

[Zombie]

Did smoke for a while "party smoking." Decided to quit, haven't touched cig since then.

I did that too back about 8 years ago, decided to quit it since party smoking is stupid.

Been a chain smoker ever since :>

 

[Heinvers]

Been a chain smoker ever since :>

Any will to resist?

 

[Aeroblyctos]

Yeah, we smokers are like walking corpses with an infectious aura of death around everything we touch.

I think we should wear identification badges so that people don't get 5 meters within our deadly emission, we should also be forbidden to use pavements.

Better watch out! Really creepy.

 

[Zaramorus]

Most of the smokers even do cigs, because they want to look like grown-ups and cool, but smoking is dumb. It has no positive effects so what is the point of doing it?

 

[Zombie]

Any will to resist?

Nah, I'm satisfied with the current political spectrum.

Most of the smokers even do cigs, because they want to look like grown-ups and cool, but smoking is dumb. It has no positive effects so what is the point of doing it?

Yeah, totally. When I became 30 I thought "fuck, having wrinkles, an aging body and a full beard is not enough, I'll start smoking because that is what's missing from looking like a grown-up!"

Tell you what, most smokers are above 20.

 

[Chaosy]

Tell you what, most smokers are above 20.

I think that's somewhat debatable. There are smokers that are 20-60 years old(or even older)

However the teenagers that Zaramorus seems to be talking about are 13-19? which makes comparing them in raw numbers 'unfair' to say the least since there are more adults than teenagers to start with.

If you compare by percentage, I think it's more common that teenagers smoke in order to look cool or whatever. (hell if I know)

 

[chobibo]

Most of the smokers even do cigs, because they want to look like grown-ups and cool, but smoking is dumb. It has no positive effects so what is the point of doing it?

Nope, smoking makes the smoker "feel good". That's a positive effect in my opinion.

 

[Zombie]

I think that's somewhat debatable. There are smokers that are 20-60 years old(or even older)

However the teenagers that Zaramorus seems to be talking about are 13-19? which makes comparing them in raw numbers 'unfair' to say the least since there are more adults than teenagers to start with.

If you compare by percentage, I think it's more common that teenagers smoke in order to look cool or whatever. (hell if I know)

He said:

Most of the smokers even do cigs[...]

I don't see an age defined. "Most of the smokers" means a subset containing most smokers in the set of all smokers.

 

[Zaramorus]

Well maybe in America things are different, but alot of smokers and alchohol drinkers are under 20 in Estonia.
Edit: So i looked a statistic and its insane (these are Estonia statistics in 2007):
15-16 year old drinkers:
6% have never tried alcohol
55% have atleast once been drunk
28% had drank 3 or more times alcohol in 30 days.
But now back to ontopic:
Here in Estonia ever fifth of 14-18 year olds smoke everyday and about 355 000 over 16 year olds smoke everyday.

 

[GhostThruster]

no, i'd prefer to not get lung cancer

where i live, smoking is socially looked down upon and the amount of smokers is decreasing i believe.

 

[kakuzu]

@Zaramorus . WoW , that is very bad . I think that because Esthonia is near Russia , esthonian people learnt russian habits : drinking a lot of vodka .

 

[Deleted member 219079]

no, i'd prefer to not get lung cancer

where i live, smoking is socially looked down upon and the amount of smokers is decreasing i believe.

So where you live?

 

[Zombie]

@Zaramorus . WoW , that is very bad . I think that because Esthonia is near Russia , esthonian people learnt russian habits : drinking a lot of vodka .

LOL

I have no words.

 

[Zaramorus]

@Zaramorus . WoW , that is very bad . I think that because Esthonia is near Russia , esthonian people learnt russian habits : drinking a lot of vodka .

Estonia is next to Russia, but Russia aint the craziest in drinking alchohol. Finland is the craziest. And what is even creepier is that i dont like that Estonia is so close to Russia, because of the shit that is going on right now in Ukraine.

 

[Chaosy]

I don't see an age defined. "Most of the smokers" means a subset containing most smokers in the set of all smokers.

Even if he didn't use those exactly those words, if you read between the lines he seems to speak about teenagers or very young adults.

If that isn't the case, I admit that you're correct.

So where you live?

this. I've always heard of smoking as 'global problem' of sorts.

 

[Zombie]

Even if he didn't use those exactly those words, if you read between the lines he seems to speak about teenagers or very young adults.

If that isn't the case, I admit that you're correct.

Sorry, didn't realize this was a Coelho book.

 

[GhostThruster]

So where you live?

australia. not bragging tho, we put alcohol on a pedestal instead

 

[Chaosy]

Sorry, didn't realize this was a Coelho book.

Now it's my turn to have no words..

Oh well I think I'll be leaving the discussion on my part before it gets too off topic.

 

[Celaquil]

LOL

I have no words.

Apparently, you did

It's always entertaining to watch how such fits always happen because of
misunderstandings, misinterpretation and a false sense of knowing.
- I guess it's human nature.

Concerning the topic, I once heard a fellow say:

"Those who smoke die when they're 80, those who don't wish they did."

 

[SpectreD]

I smoke, mainly for addiction. But i also find it helps me relax a lot.

Also a big social factor of my life

 

[Linaze]

Former smoker since July 2013.

 

[Erindeir]

passive smoking. Many people around me smoke, smoke everywhere.

 

[Orcnet]

I too smoke, but not in a way I'm ready to do a chimney routine. I can say its like drinking alcohol. DO it moderately.