Question: Legal/Illegal ?

[Hantoo]

Is it legal to make money with Warcraft 3 Resource?
with adfly,
shrinking the download link of warcraft 3 CUSTOM model/edited model with adfly,
is it legal?

or warcraft 3 spell/map doing the same thing? is it legal? im gonna ask here before i do it

spell/model/map
for example
take this model: Alicorn that is edited by me from blizzard model
upload to mediafire and shrink its link with adfly and promote it in youtube is this legal?

and maps/spell too...

Spoiler

I just wanna get 26.95$ for minecraft and im not even started work yet

 

[BloodDrunk]

No because they are blizzard's resources and if they find out you've been making money using their resources, they can sue you (copyright infringement).

 

[Hantoo]

at last... answers!!!
so spells and maps with adfly is illegal?
how bout model from scratch? (in .mdx format)

 

[Vinz]

I think not. But they will have to be very high quality.

 

[Hantoo]

How bout enabled monetized youtube video about warcraft tutorial?

And is it allowed to post monetized youtube video in hive? (tutorial and stuff)

And do is it count as copyright if i make a warcraft model of a movie character?(to the movie)

 

[Zombie]

http://www.summerjobs.com/

 

[Dr Super Good]

Is it legal to make money with Warcraft 3 Resource?

As WC3 resources? No. Example would be selling custom models such as those found on this site for money. This violates the ToU of the game.
As generic resources that are ported to WC3? Yes. Have no examples offhand but it could be assets brought bulk from some website with licence to port and use in a WC3 map like way. As long as it does not conflict with the WC3 ToU it is fine.
As a service for WC3 related work? Yes. Example is a commissioned artist to make assets like a load screen, models or even sounds. The load screen for DotA Allstars is by far the most famous example of this with possibly several thousand dollars being spent on them over the years. Many less well known maps also have commissioned loading screens but usually this is for considerably less than 100 dollars. These are usually done via dedicated artist sites and not WC3 sites.

Do note that Hive Workshop does not allow one to use it for commercial purposes. So it is not allowed here to advertise or request a commercial WC3 map service. Nothing stops members from mutually arranging one via PM or something but trying to promote such services will likely result in moderator action. The reason for this is to stop advertisement robots and also to avoid any potential liability that can occur in the case of institutes that promote selling products. At least this was the case back when I was a moderator so many years ago, a moderator can correct me if they feel I have said anything wrong and they can freely edit this to mirror such a correction.

 

[Nuclear]

Nobody cares either way.

 

[Chaosy]

I am kinda sure it's against the law but then again it costs more than it benefits them so you should be 'safe'.

 

[gorillabull]

The load screen for DotA Allstars is by far the most famous example of this with possibly several thousand dollars being spent on them over the years.

how do u know this, i thought icefrog just got some sucker from deviant art and told him that he would put his name on dota if he makes him a loading screen

 

[Dr Super Good]

how do u know this, i thought icefrog just got some sucker from deviant art and told him that he would put his name on dota if he makes him a loading screen

Originally that is quite probable. However considering they were hosting multi hundred thousand dollar tournaments for DotA Allstars at its prime it seems highly unlikely that he would rely on freebies and donations.

 

[Solu9]

Originally that is quite probable. However considering they were hosting multi hundred thousand dollar tournaments for DotA Allstars at its prime it seems highly unlikely that he would rely on freebies and donations.

Hm yeah considering the quality as well.
http://www.rofus.net/2012/10/dota-loading-screen-history.html

I find it unlikely a person would draw such detailed picture/s for a Warcraft 3 map without getting some kind of fee. Well there is always the publicity, but still.

 

[Hantoo]

As WC3 resources? No. Example would be selling custom models such as those found on this site for money. This violates the ToU of the game.
As generic resources that are ported to WC3? Yes. Have no examples offhand but it could be assets brought bulk from some website with licence to port and use in a WC3 map like way. As long as it does not conflict with the WC3 ToU it is fine.
As a service for WC3 related work? Yes. Example is a commissioned artist to make assets like a load screen, models or even sounds. The load screen for DotA Allstars is by far the most famous example of this with possibly several thousand dollars being spent on them over the years. Many less well known maps also have commissioned loading screens but usually this is for considerably less than 100 dollars. These are usually done via dedicated artist sites and not WC3 sites.

Do note that Hive Workshop does not allow one to use it for commercial purposes. So it is not allowed here to advertise or request a commercial WC3 map service. Nothing stops members from mutually arranging one via PM or something but trying to promote such services will likely result in moderator action. The reason for this is to stop advertisement robots and also to avoid any potential liability that can occur in the case of institutes that promote selling products. At least this was the case back when I was a moderator so many years ago, a moderator can correct me if they feel I have said anything wrong and they can freely edit this to mirror such a correction.

err... does that mean adfly+Spell = illegal? (read the whole thing, not fully understand)

 

[Dr Super Good]

adfly+Spell = illegal?

I have no idea what you are talking about.

 

[nhs325]

I have no idea what you are talking about.

He means that if you want to use his resources, you will have to pass adfly, which will give him 5 dollars/10000 people use his resources.
And to the thread question, no. ULTIMATELY NO.

 

[Nuclear]

Not sure if adfly is legal or not, but if you use it, prepare to be crucified for crimes against humanity.

 

[Hantoo]

He means that if you want to use his resources, you will have to pass adfly, which will give him 5 dollars/10000 people use his resources.
And to the thread question, no. ULTIMATELY NO.

kinda like that.. but i know i can't do it in hive i just ask here so that i can do it in other place that is allowed to...

anyway.. if Im using that adfly, i will make the model from scratch,

but how bout map and spell? <--this is what i want to ask
is it allowed to?

Not sure if adfly is legal or not, but if you use it, prepare to be crucified for crimes against humanity.

adfly is not illigal == i think

 

[Solu9]

adfly is not illegal itself, but if used to gain money from a Blizzard product it goes against the terms of use.
Creating a spell using the Warcraft 3 Map Editor you are using a Blizzard product. If you are to gain money on said spell, you are in essence gaining money off a Blizzard product. So it is illegal.
Whether or not Blizzard will act on this is hard to tell. If your spell gets downloaded thousands of times then they might look into it. Otherwise I wouldn't worry about it.

 

[Hantoo]

adfly is not illegal itself, but if used to gain money from a Blizzard product it goes against the terms of use.
Creating a spell using the Warcraft 3 Map Editor you are using a Blizzard product. If you are to gain money on said spell, you are in essence gaining money off a Blizzard product. So it is illegal.
Whether or not Blizzard will act on this is hard to tell. If your spell gets downloaded thousands of times then they might look into it. Otherwise I wouldn't worry about it.

ya.. that's why im asking here before im doing something illegal and im not aware of it... (so that i won't do illegal stuff and thinking im doing something legal)

now that i know, im going to the hard way (making model from scratch which will take alot of my time to learn make a good one)

 

[Solu9]

ya.. that's why im asking here before im doing something illegal and im not aware of it... (so that i won't do illegal stuff and thinking im doing something legal)

Read what I wrote again and you have your answer.
Strictly spoken. Yes it is illegal.

 

[Hantoo]

i understand, and then, i say the reason i make this thread (which the one you quote)

 

[GhostWolf]

Let's see.
The most downloaded model on the Hive was downloaded 64699 times over the past 4 years.
That's 1.3$ per month at best (assuming what you wrote above is right).
Your model wont be anything near it, probably something closer to 10 downloads.

This isn't even a question of legality, but rather you dreaming of making money off something that wont make you a cent.

I suggest you to find another route at getting money, like working, or trying your luck at modeling for other games that actually promote monetizing, like DotA 2. Not that you are likely to be on par with the people there, no offense intended.

 

[Hantoo]

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well no pain trying, since im not using that for my life
though i agree that my model probably something closer to 10 downloads.

i just wanna make some little money for gaming? or something, i don't need much for it...
though... if i really do, it will be like earning nothing xd
at least is not 0 what... maybe after 10 years i can get $1 and that is fun to watch xd

 

[GhostWolf]

Excuse me, didn't even check the amount, it's actually something around 66 cents per month.

You wont get 1$ also in the next 100 years.

 

[Hantoo]

Excuse me, didn't even check the amount, it's actually something around 66 cents per month.

You wont get 1$ also in the next 100 years.

well then is a useless effort then xd
too bad... i have to take the money from my life then,

 

[Zed]

Illegal i guess.

 

[Nuclear]

Getting a job is a great way of making money. Also if you like taking risks, starting your own business is also fun, and one of the few viable ways you can "get rich" if you succeed.

 

[takakenji]

get a job dude wat is this thread

 

[James Raphael]

Hey how about if I will take donations in my map is it Illegal or not???