Ironclad

[Moderator]

14:36, 18th Oct 2015
Misha: lovely, but add the cannon fire effect and sound to the cannon firing also give the cannon barrels some sort of a hole-texture

looks nice, performs well, but i feel it could use more improvements.. feel free to tinker on it, beyond me approving it

 

[Ardenian]

Considering the file size this is just plain awesome.

 

[DaHomieG]

Love the use of that texture. More vehicles with that texture would be awesome.

5/5

 

[SNIper of DARKness]

Absolutely brilliant, this for 150kb is a fair deal, BUT for 30? And not even 30 this is truly one to admire.
It fits the Cartoony WOTK perfectly, heck it could do great in a realistic map as well.

 

[Wasabee]

Awesome work with this ship and its just under 30 kb.

 

[Em!]

The hull texture is insanely stretched and looks very bad.

 

[Anglo Warior]

you don't know how long I've wanted someone to make an Ironclad model...

 

[KarlKrump]

I remember making this request awhile back and by gosh...the OP delivered!

Definitely going to test this as soon as I can.

I am sure you will update more as you go.

Your collection really is coming along.

 

[HerrDave]

The hull texture is insanely stretched and looks very bad.

Believe me, I know

Currently thinking on how to improve the team-color bits and the side-wrap, any ideas gentlemen?

 

[kellym0]

Believe me, I know

Currently thinking on how to improve the team-color bits and the side-wrap, any ideas gentlemen?

for starters I think you should increase the number of rivets visible, the round shape on that texture.

THE WAY I used to use that texture such as here:

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/members/183403-albums6929-picture98233.jpg

is to use polys to efficiently spread out rivets. you can achieve alot more texture space with your ships hull.

for example, why are the sides just 1 piece of metal? with double the polys you could add 4 times the rivets similarly to my trucks bars.

I think its team colors fine, but if you wanted ''more'' you could use some team color shingles from some wc3 buildings on one piece of roof, and another buildings team color shingles on another, to make it look more junky. could also add a team color flag that blows in the wind.

I think the cannons for having 6 poly sided shapes could have had more effort put into them uv wrap wise but I know this is built to be low file size so I under stand,

ill give it a 6/10 could be a 7 or 8 with nicer looking cannons and side hull texture wrap renovation and maybe some more animations like spell first spell second or something, where all the cannons recoil like the forward cannon during attack.

 

[Ardenian]

Currently thinking on how to improve the team-color bits and the side-wrap, any ideas gentlemen?

Maybe try to split the sides into two parts each, using the same texture, but separately for each part ?
It would increase the file size, but I guess it does not matter that much, considering the current file size.

 

[RanchBurner]

This almost reminds me of the Ironclad from Civilization 2.

 

[DaHomieG]

Making the little red roofs TC would be cool.

 

[HerrDave]

Making the little red roofs TC would be cool.

What? They should be TC'd, O-o

For some reason, in the viewer it is not displaying it.

 

[clockwork2]

Nice work comrade!

 

[Anglo Warior]

Out of curiosity, did you base this off of pictures of various ironclads, or pictures of a specific ironclad?

 

[HerrDave]

I set out making it with a fuzzy memory of what the ironclads looked like in Civilization 5, this is what my mind conjured.

 

[Anglo Warior]

I set out making it with a fuzzy memory of what the ironclads looked like in Civilization 5, this is what my mind conjured.

It definitely looks like it would fit in during their period of existence, although, I think it needs a couple of masts though, one behind the front Turret, and one in front of the Boiler Stack, I don't think they need to be rigged either.

 

[clockwork2]

I have to agree with anglo warrior there. Also, my Med Tank beats your recon anglo.

 

[Anglo Warior]

My Med Tank beats your recon anglo.

It's a light Tank actually, but either way, it is indeed smashed. It's a pity that your Medium Tank is now within the range of my Rockets though...

 

[clockwork2]

Ah so it is, and ACK!!!!!!! My Heavy tank will avenge meeeee!!! *Comical Kaboom*

 

[Anglo Warior]

I finally got around to testing the model today and I noticed something funny about the attack animation, It doesn't stop. When I initially tested the attack animation in the world editor, the delay between attacks was 3.00, The gun just kept recoiling until I got it to stop attacking. I believe the way to rectify this would be to add a 'stand ready' animation.

 

[HerrDave]

Oh piss and chips, my bad. One moment!

 

[clockwork2]

Hhahahah, piss and chips. Unusual taste there commandant!

 

[kellym0]

I finally got around to testing the model today and I noticed something funny about the attack animation, It doesn't stop. When I initially tested the attack animation in the world editor, the delay between attacks was 3.00, The gun just kept recoiling until I got it to stop attacking. I believe the way to rectify this would be to add a 'stand ready' animation.

Oh piss and chips, my bad. One moment!

A common bug, simply open the model in magos, find the animation sequence called ''Attack'' and uncheck the check box that says ''looping'' this should fix this error, the repeating animation is so things like stand channel and spell channel continue to work as directed when used with ability's in game such as the infamous ''channel'' or the over used ''blade storm'' its also default checked in magos when you ''create new sequence'' because for what ever reason every model iv ever made my flowers and bombs included at one time or other had the looping animation check box checked when ever I created new animations in magos or MDLvis editor from scratch. very annoying. but easy to fix.

Stand Ready, as far as iv been able to tell, is only used when you select a unit, if its different from stand then you'll notice them perk up a bit, but if given no new orders they go back to stand, an example of this is footman, mortar teams, Murlocs, or archers, the way when you drag-select them they perk up a moment before going back to stands. another use I think is for some buildings/wards when they have a turret bone in the model and the turret is done attacking so it re-faces forwards (what ever direction its facing at birth) stand readys are never a bad idea to include in most things. but their purpose beyond these ones iv mentioned elude me.

Update: Iv seen your changes, they are pleasing. the side panels have more detail and it looks better 7/10

 

[Warseeker]

Now that what called a Battleship ! Great job !

 

[Fingolfin]

Although this is kinda cool by itself, i have to say that as a naval warfare enthusiast, i was expecting a bit more from a WW1 dreadnought model. This feels too much like a reskinned Orc Dreadnought, and i think that you could have realized your cartoony concept in much better ways. For instance, i would have loved a proper (oversized) turret. The Borodino Battleship would make a great concept for a cool, "metal slug-style" dreadnaught:

Image

note: the Borodino was technically not a dreadnaught

 

[clockwork2]

Funny cus in Metal Slug (Which I shall always love and cherish as a series), there was a boss Battleship, THAT MOVES ON LAND.

 

[HerrDave]

That looks like a good idea for which to turn this into, but I don't know how to add flash effects to cannons, and so the other turrets would be-- duds really :[

I think I will relocate the turret on the iron-clad and add another smoke stack, maybe more masts etc.

I've been working on train cars and re-working the existing tanks, here is a screenshot of the A7V

 

[Anglo Warior]

Dave, that new skin for the A7V looks beautiful mate. Bang up job! curious though, what do you have in mind for the Mon Tank?

 

[HerrDave]

I intend to use either the Whippet tank or the Renault tank.

 

[Anglo Warior]

I intend to use either the Whippet tank or the Renault tank.

well, the Mark A is a British tank, so I'd say the Renault tank is the better choice because it's a french tank. although, you could also use the Saint-Chamond tank for the Mon army. I guess it'd depend on how much you want to differentiate the armies.

 

[clockwork2]

I'm sure fingolfin or someone could help with that turret

 

[Eagle XI]

woo a new ship, dont see these frequently on hive.

well done.

 

[WhiteFang]

Marvelous!

 

[plakkoek]

looks nice is it a juggernaut? if so than probably a majestic class

 

[HerrDave]

Good eye, this did use the orc juggernaut as its base model.

 

[plakkoek]

Good eye, this did use the orc juggernaut as its base model.

thx but actually what i ment if its based on the ww1 juggernaut ship majestic class

 

[WhiteFang]

You are lacking a ]

 

[plakkoek]

it looks like this:

 

[plakkoek]

You are lacking a ]

thx

 

[WhiteFang]

You're welcome

 

[plakkoek]

lol just found out there is a actual ship called ironclad

 

[DarkMage]

I really liked this battleship. Hive is really missing mechanical naval units.