Gnoll Workers

[Moderator]

15:53, 3rd Apr 2016
HappyTauren: There's definitely room for improvement regarding the texture and some animations, but since you've decided you won't work more on them, I will just go on and approve this, since it is a quality resource nonetheless. The wood clipping with face isn't too noticeable in the game, and some wc3 models have this issue as well anyway.

 

[Kyrbi0]

This one came first, so I'll leave my joint comments here... While it's an interesting model & I'm glad to see someone fleshing out Gnolls, more than perhaps any other submission these would not fit in-game. The textures are simply too flat & broad, & the definitions/proportionsn are waaay different.

For your own purposes/style, it's probably just fine (though the textures still seem too... stark?). For in-game, it's in need of a lot.

I wonder why it is that the "dog-men" of Azeroth are the feral ones?

 

[Whitewolf8]

I wonder why it is that the "dog-men" of Azeroth are the feral ones?

Well, Hyenas are known for being little bastards. ...and hyenas aren't technically dogs.



As for the model though, it's nicely done, I love it. ...Aside from it being exceedingly different to anything ingame. I may check out animations later if I remember.

 

[Roland]

I think you came these ideas off from Tarrasquehttp://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/members/180094-albums4633-picture51736.html's doodles <3

 

[Misha]

kinda more reminding of a balkan mythological 'Psoglav' creature than a hyena-like gnoll..

feels good tho..

 

[JesusHipster]

All the Gnoll models you just posted have pretty charismatic facial and body features but this texture just won't do. My first idea was that you've managed to make it with wc3 textures, but if it's a custom texture there is definitely a problem. Imagine this among wc3 models or at very least your other models, this won't look good because of the lack of shading and fur details. Good call you made it with one shared texture, might be easier to fix the issue.

 

[Direfury]

Look at this.
Now, look at this.
Finally, look at this. If you'll look, the only bits of noticeable, ragged fur are the mane and tail. Possibly a tuft of fur on the chin. Every other bit of fur is rather fine.

I decided not to go for details that fine, because, one, to do so in any meaningful way, I would either need to increase the texture size to 512x512, or put in pitifully miniscule details that would be outright unnoticeable ingame. I've checked my models from the distance and angle of Warcraft, and due to the distinct, noticeable differences in color, my models seemed to fit nicely.

Their 'lack' of definition made them slightly more pleasing at cinematic angles, and still left them easily identifiable from the ingame angle.


I'm considering the criticisms, and so far, but increasing contrast is simply not helping.

 

[_lycan]

Too big of a file size when the texture looks like it's cell shaded or something

 

[Direfury]

I'm going to spell this out. This download includes two models, and unfortunately, because I couldn't upload them without it, a texture shared by all of my gnoll models.

No wonder the filesize is big. I had to include the texture.

 

[Misha]

so the texture is twice or less the size

 

[Direfury]

What.

I guess I'll have to explain this. I wanted to keep the texture separate. Make it so it WOULDN'T clog up the filesize of each individual download, and make it so you'd only have to download it once. I couldn't. So, because of that, each download is larger than it has to be.

And to be clear, I combined three 128x128 textures, taking up the same amount of space as the texture for the Peon, Peasant, Footman, and nearly every other ingame unit. If you want more detail, make individual textures for each one, OR make a larger, 512x512 version of the shared texture.

I'm not trying to be aggressive or mean, but the overwhelming majority of complaints I get are about the most basic, most obviously simple things. If someone else can do a better job with the texture file than I did, go ahead, I'll give them credit and use that instead.

I've got nothing more to say about the texture or filesize, and refuse to address anything more on those topics.

 

[rcshaggy]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/Triceron/Gnoll_02_zps5d1f7476.jpg
http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb...oll_(Warcraft).jpg/500px-Gnoll_(Warcraft).jpg
http://media.blizzard.com/wow/media/fanart/fanart-1272-full.jpg

Good effort, but needs to have a different body for the model.
Everything else looks great though.

 

[Kyrbi0]

What. ...

I'm not sure why anyone doesn't understand the whole "deceptively-large filesize" issue. That's no problem for me; I'm glad you were able to make it work with one shared texture. My biggest issue is how poorly I feel they will fit next to regular, in-game Gnolls; even a quick Google Image search re-confirms my notion that the regular Gnolls are a lot... messier (texture-wise). Smaller-limbed, as well.

Still, just my thoughts.

 

[HappyCockroach]

I like your gnolls. They have spirit, and the mesh is nicely executed.

The texture isn't bad, it's just more direfurish than warcraftish. If you made your own game it, with consistent style, all your models would do nicely. But for wc3 it does stand out as a different pattern. (you should consider doing collaborative models with good (and wc3ish) texturers from thw, that would probably put out DC models ...or using in-game textures, really..)

The wc3 style is: mesh gives structure, texture gives detail and even helps defining the shape.
And yours is: mesh gives structure and details, and the texture gives color. (with some exceptions)

Your animation style is a bit different than the warcraftish too, but it does work better than most custom anims we see around.

Apart from those issues, I do believe thw shall be grateful for your gnoll pack and they will appear in many maps around. The commenters are generally more picky than the actual users of the resources

 

[stein123]

I like your gnolls. They have spirit, and the mesh is nicely executed.

The texture isn't bad, it's just more direfurish than warcraftish. If you made your own game it, with consistent style, all your models would do nicely. But for wc3 it does stand out as a different pattern. (you should consider doing collaborative models with good (and wc3ish) texturers from thw, that would probably put out DC models ...or using in-game textures, really..)

The wc3 style is: mesh gives structure, texture gives detail and even helps defining the shape.
And yours is: mesh gives structure and details, and the texture gives color. (with some exceptions)

Your animation style is a bit different than the warcraftish too, but it does work better than most custom anims we see around.

Apart from those issues, I do believe thw shall be grateful for your gnoll pack and they will appear in many maps around. The commenters are generally more picky than the actual users of the resources

Totally agree , btw, can you make a worgen version from these units? *-* *-* *-*

 

[N41]

These are nicely made Gnolls. Different from default wc3 Gnolls (In positive way). They have their own style!

What.

I guess I'll have to explain this. I wanted to keep the texture separate. Make it so it WOULDN'T clog up the filesize of each individual download, and make it so you'd only have to download it once. I couldn't. So, because of that, each download is larger than it has to be.

You can put all your Gnoll models in one pack with the shared skin or zip it and put it in pastebin or somewhere..

If someone else can do a better job with the texture file than I did, go ahead, I'll give them credit and use that instead.

Optimisation hardly saves any KB's so what you have done is best you can..

On side note:
You might like to fix this

screenshot

 

[Deleted member 238226]

just checked the unwrap on the textures, it is pretty detailed IMO.

 

[Stefan.K]

I thought you don't like WoW.

 

[WhiteFang]

I appreciate it that you made a full set of gnoll units.It makes it so easy to make a gnoll themed map or just add a fully functional gnoll faction to a map

 

[SSJ7107]

I know this may sound stupid but when I imported it, it just shows a red figure.

 

[Mustafa12399]

please help it just show red thing when i imported it