How Not to Debate

[Hakeem]

Originally Posted by Darkness-4ever

Reason why I left that in there, not "anyone" can put up whatever they want on domains like that, for the most part its controlled and generally accepted statements, data, ideas etc. that are placed there.

Some have strict regulations about what they publish but the majority do not, and not just in the .com and .net top level domains. Universities often allow their users to publish their own personal web sites.

Originally Posted by Darkness-4ever

One of the reason's wikipedia is .com

Wikipedia, and the Wikimedia foundation in general, are all .org. Also, Wikipedia is highly moderated. The admins there can block IPs and accounts. Not to mention the hoards of people who willingly devote their time to reverting abuse.

Originally Posted by Darkness-4ever

But based on your statement then it is utterly useless to cite anything at all online if you actually believe what you said applies to any and all sites, for that matter

I don't recognize any current methods of measuring qualification. Mostly because there really isn't anybody who is qualified to regulate qualification itself.

It turns out you really don't need to trust a source to derive information from it. If you want to go for any real accuracy, you don't go by some "credible" publication. The only way to get accurate information without conducting the experiments yourself is to read a vast collection of sources and determine what is reliably verified.

One person can always lie, but the crowd sucks at lying.

Originally Posted by Darkness-4ever

Would you actually watch experiments upon experiments of something like marijuana being performed and furthermore understand the results and properly interpret their meaning?

Not marijuana, no, because it does not interest me. :P

[Skycraft]

I find that a good way to debate is do not post massive walls of text. It makes things hard for people to see the point you are trying to get across, and it could mean several completely different things all in one message.

[Boris_Spider]

Most people will keep on using their 'facts' interpreted in such a way to prove their point. There isn't anything that can be done about this. In reality, a fact is just a generally accepted opinion. Case and point: Around 1000+ years ago it was a fact that the world was flat and one could fall off the edge.

However, I am likely to disagree with the masses. Think of how stupid the average person is and then realize that half of them are stupider than that...

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[Fussiler1]

Originally Posted by Boris_Spider

Most people will keep on using their 'facts' interpreted in such a way to prove their point. There isn't anything that can be done about this. In reality, a fact is just a generally accepted opinion. Case and point: Around 1000+ years ago it was a fact that the world was flat and one could fall off the edge.

A fact is something that's true and proven. So no.

[WherewolfTherewolf]

Well note that something is proven by the technology/science of the time
Some things in the past were considered truth and proven since they didn't know how to disprove it

[En_Fuego]

Make sure your arguments have a premise and a conclusion.

How not to debate

You just quoted a false source.

How not to debate

you're dumb

How to debate

You just quoted "The Onion" as a factual source, therefore you are dumb

[Boris_Spider]

Originally Posted by Fussiler1

A fact is something that's true and proven. So no.

8 centuries ago Sol orbited Earth. That was fact.

During the time of the Romans the Olympians existed. That was fact.

...both Iraq and Afghanistan had weapons of mass destruction. That too was a fact.
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The closest thing to an actual fact is the fact that there are no facts. Just accepted/proven opinions of the majority of the people.

Originally Posted by WherewolfTherewolf

Well note that something is proven by the technology/science of the time
Some things in the past were considered truth and proven since they didn't know how to disprove it

I'm making the arguement that facts are as real as perfection, in other words they're entirely subjective.

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