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Old 10-07-2009, 09:36 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Was save/load system fixed? i know people had problems
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Old 10-07-2009, 09:59 PM   #32 (permalink)
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This RPG is truly a gem. It includes Great systems, such as the talent and equipment systems, solid gameplay, and great execution. TKoK is a map that can rival some Standalone RPG GAMES.

But the problem is: 80% of battlenet users aren't willing to devote a lot of time into these types of games. Battlenet users look for the quick "15-20 minutes of fun" in WC3. Which brings me into some memories about Dark Invasion II. When ever I host that, I get bombed with "omg this is gay /leave" type users. The confusion and complexity of well made RPG's isn't what masses are looking for.

On a personal level, I can't get into these games either. Its just the feel of them that turns me off somehow, although I know that TKoK is most likely the best made RPG yet.

All in all, TKoK brings me to one thought:

Why are RPGs like Twilights Eve and say Heroes and Empires being hosted over these well made maps?

Honestly, I believe that the players don't get into this far enough to give it a chance. The slow start in most RPG maps is usually the death sentence on battlenet. Why would someone play "Insert well made RPG here" over a game that gives you the world and more at the start?

(P.S. This is the Best RPG on Bnet)
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Old 10-07-2009, 10:10 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Heroes and Empires is not truly and RPG, may I remind you it has RTS parts to it as well.
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Old 10-07-2009, 10:18 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Heroes and Empires is not truly and RPG, may I remind you it has RTS parts to it as well.
Thats why I said "Say Heroes and Empires"

It has tons of RPG elements to it as well.

Its all based around the way you play the game.
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Old 10-07-2009, 11:48 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Me and my 2 friend played this yesterday( it was 3.0.2a) we were playing warrior/cleric/chaotic knight and all of a sudden we started doing damage of 2k-10k on cave monster (well not really but the text was saying that) and everytime we were missed or we were blocking we were geting fully healed. I didn't try it on 3.0.2b so im just saying...
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Old 10-08-2009, 12:00 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Vexen, yesterday i found a great bug. My bot wasn't saving the replay so i lost any trace of it (sorry!).
While i was attacking some mobs, the damage shown started to increase on every consequent hit i made. If i stopped attacking and started again, it just resetted and started again to increase. It shown sometimes some 4k+ critical dmg!!
At first it was only the ubersplat, but then the real damage become that hard! I mean, i killed the broodmother with 6 hits! (the last ones harder than the 1st)
Do you have any idea of this increasing damage bug?
PS: I was a ranger lvl 7, and was playing 3.0.2a just in case you already repaired it.
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Old 10-08-2009, 12:58 AM   #37 (permalink)
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its kinda...... no fair.. if only with rouge char can play solo this map ;s.. i dont like rouge... only in WoW rouge is realy cool and very OP..... :s.... i cant find anyone in wc3 eurobattle.net they all want maps where is fun only few minits like aren maps.. they want play maps what can done in 30 minutes... how can its be fun? ;s... thna with warior no chance kill solo bos.. for quest?

i still think its weird get minus karma.. for that i critique map... what tester need do than?.. lie to mapmaker? and tell map is awwsome 10/10.. or 5/5 ? and without any bugs... in beta map?
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wow... A lot of changes, but tbh, I don't really like the idea of getting all of the skills from talents. It would be cool if you had standard skills, and trough talents you could get better/change old ones.

I do hope that the new zones (gardens and catacombs) will be changed, cause they are at much lower lvl than everything else (gardens are just a one path... does not even look like zone, more like passage. And catacombs are just looking bad.

Btw, I had a problem with new reset system. Some packs would not return to the starting size after reset (Hagger pack 4 example) and in catacombs packs were reseting every time a mob in it was killed >_>

But I love the new cave and forest (apart from that look out point near Hagger, it looks... wrong).

Oh, and random item generator is kinda wrong... Like I had a lvl 1 ring that gave 1 power and 2 agi, and than I get lvl 8 ring that gives 1 power...
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This map, and it's predecessors, are some of the best I've ever seen, much less played. The gameplay, is, IMHO, awesome.
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i hate dota.... yes i suck in dota.. but dota suck too... and stop tell czu i dont know how to play it.... DOTA SUCK.... who stupid ppl on earth make a dota map?....I HATE HEM
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Vexen did you read the bug i reported?
I think it should be fixed, i killed the broodmother in 6 hits!
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I do hope that the new zones (gardens and catacombs) will be changed, cause they are at much lower lvl than everything else (gardens are just a one path... does not even look like zone, more like passage. And catacombs are just looking bad.
Well the gardens is a passage to the Grave Yard and Catacombs, that's what it's supposed to be. And what do you mean by the catacombs looks bad, in what respect?
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Well the gardens is a passage to the Grave Yard and Catacombs, that's what it's supposed to be. And what do you mean by the catacombs looks bad, in what respect?
I mean that gardens are really a step back... Compare them even with the first forest >_> And 'bout the catacombs.. 'cmon plain gray squares instead of floor and walls? It does not fit fantasy game, more like sci-fi.
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