Rise of the Horde 2.0.6

[Moderator]

[2016-04-19]
Rufus:

Rufus Review Map Score Gameplay: 16 / 30 Aesthetics: 10 / 20 Total: 26 / 50 Rating Chart 45-50 5/5 Highly Recommended 35-44 4/5 Recommended 25-34 3/5 Useful 15-24 2/5 Lacking 0-14 1/5 Unacceptable Veredict A rather simple map with a fun concept that works well. Has a few custom units that are fun to use. The terrain has been improved sigificantly from the initial upload, and now looks decent. There are still more things to be done here, but in its current state it is acceptable for approval. Approved with a rating of 3/5.

01:35, 8th Apr 2016
Rufus:

Update Note Note: Status has been set to Awaiting Update. Good job on the gameplay updates! I also see that you have filled the areas that were epmty before with trees. Good. However, the terrain has not improved, only changed. Perhaps we just have different taste, but I do not think it is fitting that the new cliff tile looks like ruins. You should use the other sunken ruins cliff in order to make this look better. Your doodads wasn't placed very well. I can clearly see that you have used the brush tool and dotted out doodads. Unfortunately you have done so kind of randomly, and I cannot say I think it look better now than before. What I wanted to make you do was to make it look more natural. I suggest you try to check out a terraining tutorial, as I think you need to improve your skill. I found this one for you. I think it might come in handy as they are covering a similiar area to the one that you might want to create. http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/general-mapping-tutorials-278/various-terraining-tips-144074/ I did not try out the gameplay again, as it was good enough last time, and according to your changes you have told about, the gameplay has only become better. Well done. Read a few tutorials, learn and apply to your map, and it can be approved.

18:23, 4th Apr 2016
Rufus:

Rufus Review Map Score Gameplay: 19 / 30 Aesthetics: 3 / 20 Total: 22 / 50 Rating Chart 45-50 5/5 Highly Recommended 35-44 4/5 Recommended 25-34 3/5 Useful 15-24 2/5 Lacking 0-14 1/5 Unacceptable Gameplay The concept is nice. It is like a map taken out of a campaing, only difference being a few extra nice features. The waves of orcs coming in is pretty balanced, and I liked the pressure I was under while taking down the first base. I also like the extra units you added. Although not being a lot it added to the feeling of a much more vast selection of units. You could offer them upgrades too though, as they are can't upgrade anything like most other units. The game in general was quite fun and absorbing, but a little too simple. I would like to see perhaps some special event or something like that, to give extra impact on the gameplay, as for now you just need to build a strong army and overthrow your enemies on at a time, which also is quite fun though. I would add a few item rewards along the way, or other objectives aswell. The orc frigates are a little brutal. There are too many and they are too strong. Aesthetics Your concept with the islands are good, however, there are a lot of things to be done. I would suggest changing the tileset to something else but Loraderon Summer. Perhaps Sunken Ruins or Ashenvale. it is hard to make good-looking islands with the Loraderon environment. The terrain needs a lift. Right now the only doodads I could find was trees and rocks. The rocks were placed decently in groups by the water, but the trees placement is not good. They stand at strange positions, leaving barren areas behind them. The only two tiles in the map was grass and dirt. You need to use more of tha available tiles in order to make an appealing terrain. You also need to practice placement of the tiles you have already used, as they are positioned at strange and unntaural positions. Also, you use a lot of cliffs in your terrain, which is fine. However you can see that you only used the circle tool, and have not been adjusting the cliffs fter that. You could give the msome more love in order to make them more natural. Also, try using the higher/lower tool to make the terrain look moer alive. Right now the terrain consists only of flat plateaus. The bases could also be updated. Since they are pre-placed, and does not require an AI to build it, you can add doodads to each building to make it look really awesome. You can build stuff like the base in the first mission in the Rexxar campaign, and still make it functioning. The AI players could have custom names such as "Bonecrusher Clan", "Bloodfang Brother" and "The Teadrinkers" rather than just player 1, player 2, and player 3. You could change the tooltip of the Naval Peasant to tell the player that the unit only bulds shipyards, while still being able to become a militia etc. Bugs The first wave of orcs to arrive by boat just stopped for no reason, leaving them standing in my bay without any motives. This did not occur on my second play though, and it is not a huge issue. Summary Terrain will need to improve in order to get this map approved. Gameplay is fine as it is, but has potential to be improved to something even better. Set to Awaiting Update.

 

[MattNJ]

I have fixed the Player 4 Battleship slayed trigger, created, but have not yet added, Orc Cannon Towers, changed Frigate attack type back to normal, allowed Cannon Towers to attack air units, delayed Player 2 Grunt and Frigate production, removed Player 1 shipyard guarding towers, and added upgrade triggers to Player 2. Enjoy!!!

 

[Rufus]

Rufus Review Map Score Gameplay: 19 / 30 Aesthetics: 3 / 20 Total: 22 / 50 Rating Chart 45-50 5/5 Highly Recommended 35-44 4/5 Recommended 25-34 3/5 Useful 15-24 2/5 Lacking 0-14 1/5 Unacceptable Gameplay The concept is nice. It is like a map taken out of a campaing, only difference being a few extra nice features. The waves of orcs coming in is pretty balanced, and I liked the pressure I was under while taking down the first base. I also like the extra units you added. Although not being a lot it added to the feeling of a much more vast selection of units. You could offer them upgrades too though, as they are can't upgrade anything like most other units. The game in general was quite fun and absorbing, but a little too simple. I would like to see perhaps some special event or something like that, to give extra impact on the gameplay, as for now you just need to build a strong army and overthrow your enemies on at a time, which also is quite fun though. I would add a few item rewards along the way, or other objectives aswell. The orc frigates are a little brutal. There are too many and they are too strong. Aesthetics Your concept with the islands are good, however, there are a lot of things to be done. I would suggest changing the tileset to something else but Loraderon Summer. Perhaps Sunken Ruins or Ashenvale. it is hard to make good-looking islands with the Loraderon environment. The terrain needs a lift. Right now the only doodads I could find was trees and rocks. The rocks were placed decently in groups by the water, but the trees placement is not good. They stand at strange positions, leaving barren areas behind them. The only two tiles in the map was grass and dirt. You need to use more of tha available tiles in order to make an appealing terrain. You also need to practice placement of the tiles you have already used, as they are positioned at strange and unntaural positions. Also, you use a lot of cliffs in your terrain, which is fine. However you can see that you only used the circle tool, and have not been adjusting the cliffs fter that. You could give the msome more love in order to make them more natural. Also, try using the higher/lower tool to make the terrain look moer alive. Right now the terrain consists only of flat plateaus. The bases could also be updated. Since they are pre-placed, and does not require an AI to build it, you can add doodads to each building to make it look really awesome. You can build stuff like the base in the first mission in the Rexxar campaign, and still make it functioning. The AI players could have custom names such as "Bonecrusher Clan", "Bloodfang Brother" and "The Teadrinkers" rather than just player 1, player 2, and player 3. You could change the tooltip of the Naval Peasant to tell the player that the unit only bulds shipyards, while still being able to become a militia etc. Bugs The first wave of orcs to arrive by boat just stopped for no reason, leaving them standing in my bay without any motives. This did not occur on my second play though, and it is not a huge issue. Summary Terrain will need to improve in order to get this map approved. Gameplay is fine as it is, but has potential to be improved to something even better. Awaiting Update.

 

[MattNJ]

I think I made most of the fixes you wanted Rufus, but I will make more if needed.

 

[Rufus]

I'm glad to see your devotion to your project that you are showing by updating it quickly!

However, I won't be checking your map again very soon, as I want to be fair and give all maps in the pending section a moderators comment to work from first. This gives you time to really look into your own map, look at it with sceptic eyes and try to find more things that can be fixed.

One quick thing you can do now:
Add an overview of your map in the description. That might attract more people to try your map out.

 

[MattNJ]

I'm glad to see your devotion to your project that you are showing by updating it quickly!

However, I won't be checking your map again very soon, as I want to be fair and give all maps in the pending section a moderators comment to work from first. This gives you time to really look into your own map, look at it with sceptic eyes and try to find more things that can be fixed.

One quick thing you can do now:
Add an overview of your map in the description. That might attract more people to try your map out.

Thanks Rufus, I will take another look or two at my map and add an overview in the description.

 

[MattNJ]

I updated the High Knight name to Dragon Baron in V5.

I added triggers for the default, and new, Player 1 Town Hall and Shipyard locations, in the cases of grunt, frigate, and juggernaut attacks targeting them, in V5.

I added some cattails to my map also in V5.

 

[Rufus]

Update Note Note: Status has been set to Awaiting Update. Good job on the gameplay updates! I also see that you have filled the areas that were epmty before with trees. Good. However, the terrain has not improved, only changed. Perhaps we just have different taste, but I do not think it is fitting that the new cliff tile looks like ruins. You should use the other sunken ruins cliff in order to make this look better. Your doodads wasn't placed very well. I can clearly see that you have used the brush tool and dotted out doodads. Unfortunately you have done so kind of randomly, and I cannot say I think it look better now than before. What I wanted to make you do was to make it look more natural. I suggest you try to check out a terraining tutorial, as I think you need to improve your skill. I found this one for you. I think it might come in handy as they are covering a similiar area to the one that you might want to create. http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/general-mapping-tutorials-278/various-terraining-tips-144074/ I did not try out the gameplay again, as it was good enough last time, and according to your changes you have told about, the gameplay has only become better. Well done. Read a few tutorials, learn and apply to your map, and it can be approved.

 

[MattNJ]

I will check out the terrain tutorial you provided a link to and update my map's terrain and doodads Rufus.

 

[Rufus]

Good!
I hope it helps. Let me know if you want any other help!

 

[MattNJ]

It may take me a while to redo my map with new islands and doodads but I am actively working on it Rufus.

 

[Rufus]

Good, good!

 

[MattNJ]

I am half finished with the new islands and player bases. Next is the configuration of the triggers.

 

[MattNJ]

My map is almost ready!!! Give me a day or two and it might be done!

 

[MattNJ]

My map is done guys! Enjoy!!!

 

[Rufus]

Rufus Review Map Score Gameplay: 16 / 30 Aesthetics: 10 / 20 Total: 26 / 50 Rating Chart 45-50 5/5 Highly Recommended 35-44 4/5 Recommended 25-34 3/5 Useful 15-24 2/5 Lacking 0-14 1/5 Unacceptable Veredict A rather simple map with a fun concept that works well. Has a few custom units that are fun to use. The terrain has been improved sigificantly from the initial upload, and now looks decent. There are still more things to be done here, but in its current state it is acceptable for approval. Approved with a rating of 3/5.

 

[MattNJ]

Thanks for the approval Rufus!

 

[MattNJ]

I adjusted the intervals between attack waves for computer players and added Raider waves for Player 2.

 

[MattNJ]

I edited some custom unit statistics in V16 such as custom unit resource costs.

 

[MattNJ]

I adjusted the map gold mine amounts and triggers in V20. I condensed some training and attacking trigger loops down into one create/attack trigger loop in V20. I also adjusted some enemy wave initializations.

 

[MattNJ]

In V22 I made some major improvements to my enemy transport drop and other map triggers.

 

[MattNJ]

In V25 I have set up enemy Peons to harvest lumber and gold and I created two enemy transport drop off locations.

 

[MattNJ]

I fixed the enemy transport random drop triggers and the enemy peon lumber and gold harvest triggers in V27.

 

[MattNJ]

I added more enemy buildings and I adjusted many custom unit stats in V29.

 

[MattNJ]

I made some custom unit and hero updates and I added some new Ogre and Demolisher Orc base guards in V30.

 

[MattNJ]

In Rise of the Horde V32 I improved my triggers and I improved my custom unit stats.

 

[MattNJ]

I fixed the issue with the Player 3 transport drop.

 

[MattNJ]

I updated the map with new custom units, heroes, and AI. I also added some gold mines, adjusted their amounts, and added new Neutral Passive buildings and Creeps.