PRO WAR v1.7 -Kev Hotfix

sentrywiz · 12-26-2010, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Eldubs

I noticed that, and i did it.

Then no problem :)
Thanks

supertoinkz · 12-27-2010, 10:34 AM

Hmm....

First, you should seriously improve the description when you're learning a skill. Currently, it contains shit.
Second, you could increase the range of the King of Fools and the Lord Jester's attack range, an entire team can just effing camp in the enemies well.
Third, you might consider to plan the gold circulation/costs, I'm finding it hard to buy a boot in early games.
Fourth, some heroes are imbalanced (some are too weak, some are too powerful). Specifically that hero that summons clockwerks (was it the Engineer). I could get 10 straight "Holy Shit" streak because of its third skill.

On the brighter side, I like the game pretty much. Just a suggestion though, could you add an infinite kill mode please *cute puppy eyes*, I find 80 short.

sentrywiz · 12-27-2010, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by supertoinkz

Hmm....

First, you should seriously improve the description when you're learning a skill. Currently, it contains shit.
Second, you could increase the range of the King of Fools and the Lord Jester's attack range, an entire team can just effing camp in the enemies well.
Third, you might consider to plan the gold circulation/costs, I'm finding it hard to buy a boot in early games.
Fourth, some heroes are imbalanced (some are too weak, some are too powerful). Specifically that hero that summons clockwerks (was it the Engineer). I could get 10 straight "Holy Shit" streak because of its third skill.

On the brighter side, I like the game pretty much. Just a suggestion though, could you add an infinite kill mode please *cute puppy eyes*, I find 80 short.

1 - That was improved. I know I just wrote random jokes under skills, but now it contains both humor in gray color and proper description in white color. I am not sure what version you have, prolly an older one. Download the new one

2 - That might be a good idea. I will do that. However just to say, if your team camps at the enemy fountain, the fountain won't heal you, you will get hit by invulnerable guardian and if that's not enough, the enemy team will be healed all the time. That isn't really odds in your favor. However yes, I will increase the range and maybe add a stacking damage ability. Thanks

3 - THAT may have been a problem at the early version, as BlackRose who was hosting with 9 people, I saw that they were slaughtering each other all the time and had money issues. However, read about the new gold system. Even if you afk at fountain now, it will be impossible for you to not get gold enough, not just for boot, but for lots more.

4 - I have been doing heavy rebalancing like, all the time. I am not sure why do you think the Engineer is overpowered. His stupid robots have been nerfed twice + the building's damage has been nerfed. The spawning rate of the robots has been increased and they do piercing damage. Trust me, before - I would agree with you. But now, if he scores a holy shit, constantly - its not because of the robots. His mana burn takes away 5 mana, which equals to 5 more damage and 5% more damage to heroes. Sure that is a powerful skill, but not too powerful?

There are gonna be more balancing of course, However, heroes as they are right now in the new version - are pretty much balanced. Sure some don't do damage as others, but their benefits are others. The Warrior for example does TONS of damage with his I SMASH skill, but no stun, no disable nothing. The Thief however has no tons of damage skills, but he has two stuns.

Thanks for your comments supertoinkz I appreciated the effort. An infinite mode? Now that would really get boring no? I do know what you mean, and when I play alone I usually find 80 kills fast. But hey, if this map gets approved, I'll add a "supertoinkz" mode, which will equal infinite mode ^^

supertoinkz · 12-27-2010, 01:34 PM

1. Strange. From what I know, I'm playing the current version. Anyways, redownloading.

2. It is not impossible to camp in the enemies well, you just need the engineer, warlock, doctor, and a couple of tanks. We already did it lol.

3. You mean the spills of war?

4. 5 mana + 5 more damage is overpowered. I was using Buffalo and I was dead before my axe touched him.

Also, I find Onions (the peasant) hard to catch with Buffalo lol

sentrywiz · 12-27-2010, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by supertoinkz

1. Strange. From what I know, I'm playing the current version. Anyways, redownloading.

2. It is not impossible to camp in the enemies well, you just need the engineer, warlock, doctor, and a couple of tanks. We already did it lol.

3. You mean the spills of war?

4. 5 mana + 5 more damage is overpowered. I was using Buffalo and I was dead before my axe touched him.

Also, I find Onions (the peasant) hard to catch with Buffalo lol

1 - What version is it? V1.3a AI or just V1.3

2 - I didn't say its impossible. But sure, now that you put it that way - add staff of healing to both doctor and heretic. Yeah, you got a camp. Will do some "defensive" revamp. Btw you got a good tactic, two healers, two tanks and one dps i guess. I am not gonna completely nerf the possibility of base camp, but I will make it harder, thanks to your tactic ^^

3 - Yeah the spoils of war. Its based on team kills, and it only increases. Trust me on this, its good gold gain.

4 - Alright, but then again the Warrior has 12% lifesteal and aoe Strength x 3 damage. He will burn your mana, but not to the extent of killing you. Heretic's Doomsayer does more damage than this + it purges the target. Its a chance on hit though. All I'm saying is, 5 mana burn is powerful, but not that much powerful.

5 - Played him? When you summon his horse, you get movement speed increased. Its not the first time the farmer or his team mates escaped my wrath because the horse was there. It is meant to escape you, because if you two have equal boots + horse's movespeed aura - he will always outrun you.

supertoinkz · 12-27-2010, 11:53 PM

I'm using V1.3a AI.

Also...

1. You could improve the leaderboard like
Army of fools 0 0
-----------------
hurr durr 0 0

Jester Crusade 0 0
-----------------
herp derp 0 0

2. And make it multiboard :D

sentrywiz · 12-28-2010, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by supertoinkz

I'm using V1.3a AI.

Also...

1. You could improve the leaderboard like
Army of fools 0 0
-----------------
hurr durr 0 0

Jester Crusade 0 0
-----------------
herp derp 0 0

2. And make it multiboard :D

Wanna help me with that? I tried, couldn't make it to work.
Whats wrong with fools and jesters? Its the laughing stock and I wanna keep it up, as fail humor as it is - map has to be fun. Not all serious like, team 1, team 2 or even more tight like, Protectors and Devourers

What the hell... keep life fun man :)

And seriously, I need help for multiboard, I tried couple of times and yes, I am using leaderboard because I am a hotshot multiboard genius programmer XD

supertoinkz · 12-28-2010, 02:50 AM

No, I didn't say change the name of the factions. What I mean is that change the format of the leaderboard. Hurr durr and herp derp are the players (for example).

And I can't help you with multiboards. Sorry :C

sentrywiz · 12-28-2010, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by supertoinkz

No, I didn't say change the name of the factions. What I mean is that change the format of the leaderboard. Hurr durr and herp derp are the players (for example).

And I can't help you with multiboards. Sorry :C

Damn. Well I'll write a wanted poster then :P

Padman · 12-28-2010, 05:11 PM

The game is quite fun, maybe it's a bit too short (4 levels for heroes), and the icons are a bit too similar to those from LoL and DotA. Getting no money if someone steals the kill is not really good, so some kind of assist system would be great.

kevlamin · 12-28-2010, 08:22 PM

Okay now i think gold is Far too easy to get >.< i played a 5v5 80 kill game (I was engineer) and ended the game with (will use LoL item names for the ones i cant remember) 3x Wits End 1x Sunfire cape 1x addidas 1x ninja mask with 7k gold to spare

sentrywiz · 12-28-2010, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by kevlamin

Okay now i think gold is Far too easy to get >.< i played a 5v5 80 kill game (I was engineer) and ended the game with (will use LoL item names for the ones i cant remember) 3x Wits End 1x Sunfire cape 1x addidas 1x ninja mask with 7k gold to spare

You do know that Wits End's mana burn (Magical Scimitar) doesn't stack on Engineer. But I am guessing you went for the intelligence boost.

Yeah, I too think gold is too easy to get now as well. Will figure something out though.. thanks for saying

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The game is quite fun, maybe it's a bit too short (4 levels for heroes), and the icons are a bit too similar to those from LoL and DotA. Getting no money if someone steals the kill is not really good, so some kind of assist system would be great.

Well, the icons are from LoL and from WoW... I took none from Dota, but those in Dota are took from WoW as well, so I can't say much there :D

I am not sure why an assists system would work out, hence its not solo killing spree its the team kills that count. And gold is pretty easy to make, as kevlamin said above, he had over 7k to spare on a long game.

Overall, thanks guys for comments.

Lambdadelta · 12-29-2010, 01:41 AM

Played again, 5v5, and here are my thoughts:

MY THOUGHTS (TOP SECRET)

sentrywiz · 12-29-2010, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by xBlackRose

Played again, 5v5, and here are my thoughts:

MY THOUGHTS (TOP SECRET)

right... -_-

kevlamin · 12-30-2010, 07:02 PM

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You do know that Wits End's mana burn (Magical Scimitar) doesn't stack on Engineer. But I am guessing you went for the intelligence boost.

Exactly

Edit: i liked the old gold system better because it means you have to be Very cautios if your on a killing spree and havent bought anything and it also makes people targets to disable before they can buy stuff etc. And if you want to make money with less risk or you are losing you can just go farm one of the orange dots or green if you cant farm the orange one's