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07-14-2007, 07:58 PM
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#16 (permalink)
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"Also, honestly shut up and stop thinking your acctually good at map making."
That line makes me laugh, I never said I was good at map making. Don't make up lies. And I have the right to post comments on something I uploaded. Flaming is still against the rules kid, don't forget it.
"guess what hmmm oh right the map if it contains large portions of another map "MUST" have been passed on by consent!"
It was passed on by consent. I was asked to credit the original makers, Gotenkz and Womplord, I did. I credited Orgrim and wcbraint for models, I credited emjlr3 for his spell, I didn't steal anything.
"You edited a map sorry, that takes no skill."
That's nice, but nobody else would have done it if I didn't. People wanted a new DBZ Tribute, they got it.
"people who just edit a map and call it their own work."
Again, I didn't call it my work. I edited Gotenkz' map, I gave him credit. I gave Womplord credit, I credited everyone that contributed.
I try not to say this often, but you're a special case. You're flaming someone for creating a community, reviving an abandoned game, etc. You've contributed nothing to said community, yet you think you're above everyone. Honestly, get a life.
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07-14-2007, 08:05 PM
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#17 (permalink)
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Credit doesnt matter, end of question, you need permission written permission or else it's piracy.
Naw, I don't think im above everyone, but I do think i'm one of the few people who likes to stop pirates like you and gotenkz. Technically your both at fault, I Would have disapproved gotenkz map as well. Credit isn't the only thing that matters you need permission as I said earlier.
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07-14-2007, 08:07 PM
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#18 (permalink)
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Glad you've started to calm down. Now, if you will, direct your attention to this link.
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/dbztribute/
That means Gotenkz isn't a pirate, I'll try to dig up my conversation with Gotenkz here in a bit if you still think it was without consent.
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07-14-2007, 08:11 PM
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#19 (permalink)
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Creator of Sereg D`or
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You need personal consent Adam, he's still a pirate according to hiveworkshop rules.
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07-14-2007, 08:13 PM
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#20 (permalink)
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"this means no edits of other people's work without the author's permission."
"so you guys can at least finish what i couldn't if you want"
Sounds like he gave permission. And that's a direct quote from Hiveworkshop's rules / Womplord
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07-14-2007, 08:14 PM
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#21 (permalink)
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Creator of Sereg D`or
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Yea I know it is, author's permission was not personally given.
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07-14-2007, 08:15 PM
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#22 (permalink)
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It was personally given by Womplord. The rule says you need permission, he gave permission.
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07-14-2007, 08:18 PM
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#23 (permalink)
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Creator of Sereg D`or
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Personally given means from him directly to the person who carried on the work. Aka, he has to talk to the guy and tell him yes you can use my map.
He can't just make a general statement and call his map open-source check the hive rules.
Qoute direct from the rules:
"One exception to this may be if a map was willingly passed on from one owner to the next, not simply edited from an open source map."
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07-14-2007, 08:20 PM
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#24 (permalink)
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yawn, Dictionary definition ftw.
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07-14-2007, 08:21 PM
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#25 (permalink)
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Creator of Sereg D`or
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Aww, you really wish it was GG don't you Adam, you silly lil pirate you. Don't make me burn up all the rum. The hive rules don't allow open source maps like womplords to count as being permission <3.
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07-14-2007, 08:23 PM
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#26 (permalink)
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I'm pretty sure by that rule, they mean editing an unprotected map without permission. That wasn't the case. Besides, I don't drink rum.
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07-14-2007, 08:24 PM
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#27 (permalink)
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Wrong, it means you need exact personally give permission from the first author to the 2nd author and so forth. NO OPEN SOURCE. That's what that means, Womplord made his map opensource, he didn't give exact permission personally to Gotenkz, they didn't have a conversation and Womplord transfer all rights to Gotenkz.
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07-14-2007, 08:25 PM
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#28 (permalink)
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And how do you know this? Were you there when Gotenkz got the map? Proof please or your entire argument is useless.
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07-14-2007, 08:27 PM
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#29 (permalink)
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Creator of Sereg D`or
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The lack of proof on your part that he ever made such a deal, makes it so. Lack of evidence is evidnce, and please don't 1337 speak, it just makes you look more and more like a illiterate Pirate.
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07-14-2007, 08:28 PM
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#30 (permalink)
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Excuse the double post, but I didn't want to bring this up unless I had to.
"If a map is based upon or contains a large percentage of another map's ideas or components, full credit is expected to be given."
Full credit was given, I stated this earlier.
"Resource moderators will decide on a case-by-case basis which maps are "original" enough to be approved."
I think this says it all, two moderators approved it, it doesn't matter what you say anymore.
And "leet speak" is a joke, don't take it seriously.
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