Round Table of Arkain

[Boriss]

Spoiler

At least unlike Lerrig who got his General post the same way and die like an idiot while fighting demons , Gardon proved he deserved his post.

Spoiler

And in the next point i know you will revive her. It's all part of your plan.

There was actually no side quest to kill her. So maybe she survived after all?

 

[LISBOAH]

There was actually no side quest to kill her. So maybe she survived after all?

Spoiler

Maybe, maybe not. But, unless Gardon gave her an amulet, she will be imprisoned as she was loyal to the Queen, even though it was Salana who spared her in the last civil war.

 

[Boriss]

Spoiler

Maybe, maybe not. But, unless Gardon gave her an amulet, she will be imprisoned as she was loyal to the Queen, even though it was Salana who spared her in the last civil war.

Mmm, maybe Lera x Larine?
That being said, will we ever see Larine again? In the human books I mean.

 

[LISBOAH]

Mmm, maybe Lera x Larine?
That being said, will we ever see Larine again? In the human books I mean.

To where can she flee to? The kingdoms are either under control of van Durce (that wishes to leave the continent) and Gardon (that is hunting her down). And I am sure Gardon told lies to King Dorten, telling that she was bringing dissension to the ranks, with absolutely no "proofs". If she tries to approach the King, I am pretty sure Gardon's men will capture her.

Larine was too smart for her own good and should have kept her mouth shut. Saying her suspicions right at the front of Gardon, Thanok and Salana wasn't very clever, and she was too overconfident when dealing with Brian.

 

[Championfighter25]

Mmm, maybe Lera x Larine?
That being said, will we ever see Larine again? In the human books I mean.

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Shar mentioned a while back that we won't see her after chapter 7 for a long time. So i think she may appear near the end of the campaign, but i don't see her playing a bigger role. Also do you remember the time Krom said to her in chapter 6 "i will enjoy hunting and killing you" yeah why do i feel like he will catch her first and not Thanok's knights?
Also what @LISBOAH said.

 

[Boriss]

Spoiler

Shar mentioned a while back that we won't see her after chapter 7 for a long time. So i think she may appear near the end of the campaign, but i don't see her playing a bigger role. Also do you remember the time Krom said to her in chapter 6 "i will enjoy hunting and killing you" yeah why do i feel like he will catch her first and not Thanok's knights?
Also what @LISBOAH said.

I dont remember kim saying that to her. Chapter 6 of the undead book? What was that chapter about? Never said Larine will go straight to Gardon. She can stay in the wilderness. Shes a survivalist after all. She hides in a forest noone will find her unless she wants to. Maybe she will aid Aedale if she cleanses herself of the demonic powers?

 

[Championfighter25]

I dont remember kim saying that to her. Chapter 6 of the undead book? What was that chapter about? Never said Larine will go straight to Gardon. She can stay in the wilderness. Shes a survivalist after all. She hides in a forest noone will find her unless she wants to. Maybe she will aid Aedale if she cleanses herself of the demonic powers?

Im sure he says that to her in chapter 6 of the second human book. Also that's her best bet to survive indeed. And i doubt she would be that stupid to try and kill Krom for saying those words, as he would outmatch her easily.

 

[LISBOAH]

I dont remember kim saying that to her. Chapter 6 of the undead book? What was that chapter about? Never said Larine will go straight to Gardon. She can stay in the wilderness. Shes a survivalist after all. She hides in a forest noone will find her unless she wants to. Maybe she will aid Aedale if she cleanses herself of the demonic powers?

Once Gardon beats van Durce, he will control all the Kingdoms and they will eventually find her.
I can see it now:
Larine: Wanted, an Arkain story. Coming soon in a theater near you...

 

[Boriss]

Once Gardon beats van Durce, he will control all the Kingdoms and they will eventually find her.
I can see it now:
Larine: Wanted, an Arkain story. Coming soon in a theater near you...

When van Durce is gone and demons are dead he will have no reason to hunt her. And Kasrkin can still help her too. Or Cora and other Tyrant´s babies.

 

[Championfighter25]

When van Durce is gone and demons are dead he will have no reason to hunt her. And Kasrkin can still help her too. Or Cora and other Tyrant´s babies.

Let's not forget it was Thanok who sent the knights, Gardon didn't care since he knew she couldn't do anything. Also why would the Kasrkin waste their time with her? With all the propaganda spread about her they would kill her on the spot instead of trusting her.

 

[LISBOAH]

When van Durce is gone and demons are dead he will have no reason to hunt her. And Kasrkin can still help her too. Or Cora and other Tyrant´s babies.

If she spreads word about he possibly brainwashing the elven queen and one of his comrades is a powerful dark entity, it could cause panic and chaos.

 

[Championfighter25]

If she spreads word about he possibly brainwashing the elven queen and one of his comrades is a powerful dark entity, it could cause panic and chaos.

And i wonder who would trust her?

 

[LISBOAH]

And i wonder who would trust her?

Anyone with a common sense? I mean, Gardon legalized necromancy and demonology, at least one of his abilities is darkness magic and Brian possesses shadow magic, including an ability that allows him to create shadow creatures?

 

[Championfighter25]

Anyone with a common sense? I mean, Gardon legalized necromancy and demonology, at least one of his abilities is darkness magic and Brian possesses shadow magic, including an ability that allows him to create shadow creatures?

Sadly Propaganda will get in the way, people had a disdain for her and since she now got exiled twice people won't trust her anymore. And yeah Gardon has indeed legalised Necromancy and Demonology, but he himself said he would never allow his men to become slaves and would rather kill them himself.

 

[Boriss]

Let's not forget it was Thanok who sent the knights, Gardon didn't care since he knew she couldn't do anything. Also why would the Kasrkin waste their time with her? With all the propaganda spread about her they would kill her on the spot instead of trusting her.

Yeah, Kasrkin are the usual brainwashed sheep right. No brain of their own right there, in the elite force of one of the best imperial generals.
Well Aedale would still help her.

 

[LISBOAH]

Yeah, Kasrkin are the usual brainwashed sheep right. No brain of their own right there, in the elite force of one of the best imperial generals.
Well Aedale would still help her.

Yeah, the power-hungry girl that absorbed two demonic artifacts and let a powerful demon reside in her body will surely be disgusted at Gardon using such tactics...

Sadly Propaganda will get in the way, people had a disdain for her and since she now got exiled twice people won't trust her anymore. And yeah Gardon has indeed legalised Necromancy and Demonology, but he himself said he would never allow his men to become slaves and would rather kill them himself.

True.
But if he could do such things, then it wouldn't be crazy to think he could use brainwash and be allied to dark entities.

 

[Championfighter25]

Yeah, Kasrkin are the usual brainwashed sheep right. No brain of their own right there, in the elite force of one of the best imperial generals.
Well Aedale would still help her.

Since they have lost their morale harder than the golden guard after Blen's death they would rather try and save themselves than help anyone else.
And Aedale will be busy getting revenge on her father so she won't waste her time with Larine too. I see however a Demonlord or something else manipulating her into becoming evil.

 

[Boriss]

Yeah, the power-hungry girl that absorbed two demonic artifacts and let a powerful demon reside in her body will surely be disgusted at Gardon using such tactics...

I said "if she cleanses herself...". Besides, my Aedy only consumed the small shard. That red really fits her tho. Redheaded elf and red robed human girls, now what could go wrong...

Nope, they lost their general, but I dont see anything hinting on "well boyz lets give up, let the demons eat us or enslave us or whatever..." Their commander said himself that he wants to kill Aedale for being in bed with Lisara.

 

[Championfighter25]

That red really fits her tho. Redheaded elf and red robed human girls, now what could go wrong...

Spoiler: 18+ warning :)

Rule 34 of Arkain states:
"This is still a warcraft campaign not a porncraft one."

Nope, they lost their general, but I dont see anything hinting on "well boyz lets give up, let the demons eat us or enslave us or whatever..."

Well they will have to either join Gardon or just wander alone. That are the only options they have.

 

[LISBOAH]

I said "if she cleanses herself...". Besides, my Aedy only consumed the small shard. That red really fits her tho. Redheaded elf and red robed human girls, now what could go wrong...

They could combine and form a red person. Go go Red Power Ranger!

But if Larine is disgusted at Gardon and Brian, what would be her opinion about Aedale, who consumed demonic artifacts and joined with a demon just for power?

 

[Championfighter25]

But if Larine is disgusted at Gardon and Brian, what would be her opinion about Aedale, who consumed demonic artifacts and joined with a demon just for power?

Basically she would chase her while spamming the Rexxar threat button from heartstone( aka i will hunt you down).
Now seriously i think she would hate her a lot, but she won't try to do anything since she doesn't want to expose herself. Still i think no matter how bad will Aedale be she would still hate Gardon the most, since he has caused her a lot more pain.

 

[LISBOAH]

Basically she would chase her while spamming the Rexxar threat button from heartstone( aka i will hunt you down).
Now seriously i think she would hate her a lot, but she won't try to do anything since she doesn't want to expose herself. Still i think no matter how bad will Aedale be she would still hate Gardon the most, since he has caused her a lot more pain.

What has Gardon done to her? She is the one that consumed demonic artifacts.
They only interacted one time.

 

[Championfighter25]

What has Gardon done to her? She is the one that consumed demonic artifacts.

I meant Larine would hate Aedale a lot, but still hate Gardon the most since he has caused her more pain.

 

[LISBOAH]

I meant Larine would hate Aedale a lot, but still hate Gardon the most since he has caused her more pain.

To be fair, she was truly stupid. Accusing Gardon of brainwasing Salana just right in front of him? And later tries to kill Brian, his mentor?

 

[Championfighter25]

To be fair, she was truly stupid.

Yeah i have to agree with that. Why just make an enemy so openly? At least wait for the right moment before betraying them. This may seem like a strange comparison, but she was like Yugoslavia during ww2. Larine just doomed herself the same way Yugoslavia did.
I wonder when Cora learns what she shouldn't will she try to betray Gardon too?

Accusing Gardon of brainwasing Salana just right in front of him? And later tries to kill Brian, his mentor?

Im surprised Gardon even let her open her mouth, let alone let her live.
Same for Brian.

 

[LISBOAH]

Im surprised Gardon even let her open her mouth, let alone let her live.
Same for Brian.

She no longer has allies, no influence... She was exiled two times, by two separate queens...
And her best strategy, to kill Brian, failed completely. She didn't even try to fight when it failed.
Basically, she is no threat.

 

[Championfighter25]

She no longer has allies, no influence... She was exiled two times, by two separate queens...
And her best strategy, to kill Brian, failed completely. She didn't even try to fight when it failed.
Basically, she is no threat.

Thanok doesn't think the way you do it seems as he wastes knights to hunt her. I just don't get why.

 

[LISBOAH]

Thanok doesn't think the way you do it seems as he wastes knights to hunt her. I just don't get why.

He is more ruthlessly pragmatic than Gardon.
I think Gardon is more concerned with van Durce than one red-headed elf...

 

[Championfighter25]

He is more ruthlessly pragmatic than Gardon.

He sure loves wanting his time. Im sure once Gardon goes after the emperor he will be hunting down a private.

I think Gardon is more concerned with van Durce than one red-headed elf...

And he does a smart thing, he can waste him time bringing down castles and fortified areas of the golden guard, but goes directly for Douche himself. Now that's good common sense.

 

[Kasrkin]

It is done.... hard mode, no possessions, and Ross is dead.

Spoiler

Going to wait 'till tomorrow to upload the screenshots.

 

[Razorfang]

i have just played the newly released content. interesting developments. now i seriously have no idea what to expect for the last few final chapters of the human book, genthas is no longer in command of the slaves, Ranold, the demons and Gardons ironfist are the 3 major players. at this point anything could happen.

 

[Logan Raynor]

I do not stop people from using cheats, but I do not support them.
This means that any issue caused by cheats will not be fixed.

Regardless, we will take a look at this in a game without any cheats.

no
it's not about it
I mean, we can see the thorn effect more clearly as we use the 'whosyourdaddy' cheats, not that I use the cheats to overcome the difficulty
the thing is, I found that the melee enemies took some backfire dmg, then I tried the cheats to confirm my suspicion, they dealt a lot of dmg to themselves while attacking van Douche
so my guess is the 'Plating' passive skill of van Douche has an additional thorn effect which is not described in the game, perhaps it got renamed from the passive skill of Crypt Lord or sth
and, I even finished the campaign without cheats for the 1st playthru, I played the 2nd playthru to find out about the choice options we pick and for bugs if I can find any

 

[Boriss]

I did say "after Aedale cleanses herself...". That changes perspective a bit yes? She freed herself from Lisara´s grasp with the help from one or more of her sisters, making her unique expert on demons and their manipulations, plus I suspect Lisara´s boss is the dark entity. And the dark entity ordered Blen´s death through the emperor, ordered elves evacuated and so on, ultimately resulting in Gardon doing the desperate thing he did. So, Kasrkin, Aedale and Larine do have a common enemy. All their troubles and despair was brought on by the dark entity. So we may yet see ultimate battle on 2 fronts. Gardon versus demons (and maybe van Durce there somewhere) in the kingdoms and Tyrant´s daughters, Larine and Kasrkin versus dark entity across the ocean?

 

[lekxman22]

I thinked that larine aedale and kasakrin form A ally and fight vs gardon and demons
That was my thought
Sry for my bad eng

 

[Championfighter25]

I did say "after Aedale cleanses herself...". That changes perspective a bit yes? She freed herself from Lisara´s grasp with the help from one or more of her sisters, making her unique expert on demons and their manipulations, plus I suspect Lisara´s boss is the dark entity. And the dark entity ordered Blen´s death through the emperor, ordered elves evacuated and so on, ultimately resulting in Gardon doing the desperate thing he did. So, Kasrkin, Aedale and Larine do have a common enemy. All their troubles and despair was brought on by the dark entity. So we may yet see ultimate battle on 2 fronts. Gardon versus demons (and maybe van Durce there somewhere) in the kingdoms and Tyrant´s daughters, Larine and Kasrkin versus dark entity across the ocean?

Largoth is her master if Lisara hasn't betrayed him that is. And i doubt Largoth and Lisara will allow anyone to boss them around, they are renegades that won't accept any superiors.
Once Aedale frees out of Lisara's grasp i feel like she will never forgive herself for what she did, this may lead to ger killing herself, but that's unlikely. And yes indeed she may become very useful, maybe by knowing the secrets to the demons she can finally prove herself, the thing she has always wanted.

 

[Boriss]

Largoth is her master if Lisara hasn't betrayed him that is. And i doubt Largoth and Lisara will allow anyone to boss them around, they are renegades that won't accept any superiors.
Once Aedale frees out of Lisara's grasp i feel like she will never forgive herself for what she did, this may lead to ger killing herself, but that's unlikely. And yes indeed she may become very useful, maybe by knowing the secrets to the demons she can finally prove herself, the thing she has always wanted.

How do you know Largoth is Lisara´s boss? I dont think it was revealed yet.

 

[LISBOAH]

How do you know Largoth is Lisara´s boss? I dont think it was revealed yet.

Well, she was freed thanks to Largoth's machinations, so she kind of owes him a lot.

 

[Boriss]

Well, she was freed thanks to Largoth's machinations, so she kind of owes him a lot.

Doesn´t make him her boss. Besides, in my reality she was freed in the 2nd book after Aedale got imprisoned.

 

[Shar Dundred]

Alright guys, break is over, we are back at full production!
@Kasrkin and I still want to have the Second Human Book finished by the end of the year.

That means five chapters (with four of them being macro ones, take that as a spoiler! =P)
within 14 weeks. Additionally, also the overhaul for Chapter Seven

Can we do that? I have no idea, but I wouldn't be your beloved tyrant if I didn't try to!

Stay tuned!

 

[Kasrkin]

Welcome to crunch time, here's hoping I don't lose my mind again.

 

[Boriss]

Welcome to crunch time, here's hoping I don't lose my mind again.

Too much autohypnosis Kas? Or just too much hate for the van Douche?

 

[Kasrkin]

Too much autohypnosis Kas? Or just too much hate for the van Douche?

Gotta test all of the new stuff make sure it all works, probably have to replay the campaign about twenty more times to see if everything is working and for a final proofreading. So much to do.

That's not even bringing up the gameplay.

 

[ArchDuke]

So I was going to ask a few quick questions:

How will chapter seven look like after all the changes are made, specifically what will the gameplay be like?

Will we get to battle against the almighty cannon which Lord Marion has been working on?

As I take it Lord Renald has now regained much of his lost popularity and thus has increased the morale of his armies, what effect will this have on the upcoming battle? Will the emperor send more troops because of this, or will Renald just try to high tail it out of the continent as fast as possible?

 

[Championfighter25]

How will chapter seven look like after all the changes are made, specifically what will the gameplay be like?

You won't be able to train any workers and build new structures, so better defend the unit producing ones. Also you won't have gold mines, instead there will be a conquer and defend system after you take a enemy base that makes resources for you over time.

Will we get to battle against the almighty cannon which Lord Marion has been working on?

We will have to wait and see.
Also we won't battle it at least that is the intention, we want to secure it for future use and that means not damage it.

As I take it Lord Renald has now regained much of his lost popularity and thus has increased the morale of his armies, what effect will this have on the upcoming battle? Will the emperor send more troops because of this, or will Renald just try to high tail it out of the continent as fast as possible?

His soldiers will be more willing to live through another battle.
The emperor thinks the continent is lost and isn't worth it and won't send anymore troops. The rest of the imperials wait for the cannon to be complete so it can cover their retreat.

 

[ArchDuke]

This campaign has made me quite confused, so many events happening in series. I think I have some idea of how this is going to resolve itself, but damn what a complicated story this has became so far

 

[ArchDuke]

so @Shar Dundred the only thing that Renald killing Genethas accomplished was making his tools more willing to fight another battle for him? I assumed this would lead to some sort of imperial 3rd wave

 

[Boriss]

Gotta test all of the new stuff make sure it all works, probably have to replay the campaign about twenty more times to see if everything is working and for a final proofreading. So much to do.

That's not even bringing up the gameplay.

Yes that can be maddening. Im running some beta-testing for stargate themed mod for star wars empire at war. It crashes at the end of every battle for first 5-10 battles. Sometimes I have to retreat to the safety of Einstein´s theory of relativity, black holes... you know, the stuff.

You can always come back here and join us in devising crazy fan theories

 

[Championfighter25]

Yes that can be maddening. Im running some beta-testing for stargate themed mod for star wars empire at war. It crashes at the end of every battle for first 5-10 battles. Sometimes I have to retreat to the safety of Einstein´s theory of relativity, black holes... you know, the stuff.

You can always come back here and join us in devising crazy fan theories

He has way more important work like proof testing every chapter 20-30 times a day so i doubt he has time for theories, besides Shar shares information about the campaign way earlier with him than us so Kasrkin knows what will happen before we do.

 

[Boriss]

He has way more important work like proof testing every chapter 20-30 times a day so i doubt he has time for theories, besides Shar shares information about the campaign way earlier with him than us so Kasrkin knows what will happen before we do.

You will work his skin off. Let him breathe for a moment and join our crazy fanfic club
Arkain fanfic is free for all!

 

[Kasrkin]

We've had to remove a few things over the years because of crashes some of these were pretty damn great, but the crash to desktop just refused to be fixed and that's not bringing up the other types of crashes we used to have either.