Asian Garden

[tobyfat50]

UPDATES

Updated on 05-03-2012
Under development!
Story in progress
Systems in progress
The terrain is Complete - check "Final stage of development" for screenshots
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DESCRIPTION

I`am working on a Campaign caled "Asian Garden" originally intended to be a multiplayer map.
(More detailed description of the project on the next update)

Theme: Samurai Fighting Arts

~for singleplayer~
- 3rd person camera - USED (Advanced Camera, Keyboard & Movement System)
- Keyboard Control Fighting system
- Jump system
- Collision system
- Lots of heroes

Map size: 20 MB
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NEED SOME HELP

Any help and suggestions are appreciated.
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STORY - Updated

spoiler

This is the fictional country of Asia, the largest country on the continent Sakura. It is a country where various tribes and bloodlines fight and also coexist; samurai, ninjas, chinaman, wizards and priests.
Ten years ago a new race was born from the earth, the demons. This race spread and evolved like a plague wreaking havoc in the country but as time passed and the evil race continue to evolve, it seeded a new being that wasn't controlled by the Overmind of the demons, thus with a mind of its own it rebelled against the Overmind and succeeded in destroying it. A period of peace and prosperity arise, a time when progress was rising. The old demon race was replaced with a new one which was half demon and half human which also coexisted with the other races in the country.

You are Jin-hetso the son of Gei-hetso a imperial general that was murdered in imperial camp, charged of been a traitor. From that moment on your family is exiled and live as outcasts.
You have being recruited into the rebel army. Your first task is to prove your self, you start in the mountains ,and you need to find a city of Giuho.

God have mercy on my writing!

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UNITS - Updated

spoiler

Jin - one sword style samurai
Abilities:
Holy Regeneration
Your Hero will Regenerate Hp And Mana Faster Than Normal For 3 Seconds.
Swords justice
Stabbing the enemy unit, causing damage and stunning the target.
Call Of Stars
Jin calls wave of flaming stars using his sword, dealing damage to enemy units in an area.
Lightning Shield
Your 3rd Attacks Will Cause A Chain Lightning Hitting Up Enemies Dealing Damage
Mirror Image
Confuses the enemy by creating 2 illusions of Jin and dispelling all magic from him and making him invisible for 5 seconds. The illusion will move to your position once you are attacked or attacking.
Background:
coming soon

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MODELS
coming soon
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VIDEOS

coming soon

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SCREENSHOTS

(No photoshop used!)

second stage of development - new version

Final stage of development

I'll need to clean this thread up...

 

[Luorax]

Dat terrain *.*
I think it should be in the legendary terrains section.

 

[Kithraya]

"(No photoshop used!)"

Just additive materials in models? I tried this before and it didn't give the similar effect.
I think he used on some screenshots Larens flare render effect and lighting filters from Photoshop or other program. Same to shadows. But i'm not sure, so I don't want to complain. I really want to see this house model in my own WE and check it.

Beyond that it looks really great and "clean". God job, and welcome.

 

[tobyfat50]

Thank you and like i said "(No photoshop used!)"
I am going to upload a tutorial on this and send you the model examples.
Good luck with your project!

 

[tobyfat50]

Also used some glow models!

 

[Miss_Foxy]

Omg I love the terrain, hope to see more information about the game!

 

[tobyfat50]

Toby Light engine----->example!

Tutorial

1. Go to material editor and enter the first material, create new material layer in the same material and click ok.

2. In the 2sd material you crated use same texture and ad additive filter, click ok.

3.You have 2 material layers in the parent material. 1 is for difuse texture, 2 is the additive (under 1st).

That`s it! Have Fun!

New! go here -------------------------->http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/tutorial-submission-283/how-add-extra-light-your-map-toby-light-engine-205683/

 

[frostloh]

Wow man...just wow. Your terrain has such great lighting that I have trouble believing that it is playable.

And did you say 3rd person camera with keyboard controls? If you manage to pull this off, I might consider this one of the best maps on wc3 out there!

 

[tobyfat50]

Hope I make it before I die, I don`t have much free time lately!
If nobody helps me i`m killing the project! R.I.P

 

[PROXY]

No offense, but the terrain is nothing else than a bunch of rips. Lots of rips. Even the ground tiles are rips. There are nearly no doodads, no vegetation, grass, flowers, anything. The few you have placed look quite missplaced. Also, never, never use the second variaton of the shrub doodad.
Good luck with it anyway.

 

[tobyfat50]

Ok "Fan"...!
1. you're right, the terrain is a bunch of rips. And yes, they are rips from wow.
2. of course there are nearly no doodads, no vegetation, grass, flowers because i`ts under development and this are just the first stage screenshots. And while you go around sp bs on other people's work, I decorate the map with doodads, vegetation, grass and flowers.
3. I have not seen any different tiles or custom trees in your maps that you yourself have done. So that means your using what resources warcraft gives you or a just a bunch of rips. So there is no difference between you and me at that point.
4. Not all models are rips. Some are made completely by me ex: "temple, the walls, and others...", Made a complete terrain...
5. wth are you talking about "never use the second variaton of the shrub doodad"

Point proven - My map is not a rip!

And finally after being a Douchebag I am going to say: "thank you for saying good luck!" If I did wrong or offended you please correct me!

 

[Sorceress]

I still like the look of it though.

 

[tobyfat50]

Oh! And I do have maps with original tiles and doodads that will knock you down! just didn't upload them yet.

 

[tobyfat50]

I still like the look of it though.

thank you! dl your map! you new here as well?!

 

[Tickles]

I'm not a big fan of the overly bright color combinations in some areas or the use of default Warcraft doodads/water with the high quality models, but your lighting methods are pretty damn amazing. I've never seen lighting effects used like that before in Warcraft itself. Thanks for posting the tips to add the effect to models, and good luck on your map.

By the way, here's a couple of models that might add to the high quality feel of the terrain:
Cloud
Water

 

[tobyfat50]

I think i know what you mean there are some areas that are too bright and in some places it might not look too well, however this is supposed to be a bright map so i may just leave some areas as they are without caring.
Thank you for the models but i think i am going to pass on the water and clowds for now!

If you want to see someone who uses the same lighting tehniqe and graphics that blow you away look at http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/map-development-202/requiem-192294/

 

[PROXY]

Ok "Fan"...!
1. you're right, the terrain is a bunch of rips. And yes, they are rips from wow.
2. of course there are nearly no doodads, no vegetation, grass, flowers because i`ts under development and this are just the first stage screenshots. And while you go around sp bs on other people's work, I decorate the map with doodads, vegetation, grass and flowers.
3. I have not seen any different tiles or custom trees in your maps that you yourself have done. So that means your using what resources warcraft gives you or a just a bunch of rips. So there is no difference between you and me at that point.
4. Not all models are rips. Some are made completely by me ex: "temple, the walls, and others...", Made a complete terrain...
5. wth are you talking about "never use the second variaton of the shrub doodad"

Point proven - My map is not a rip!

And finally after being a Douchebag I am going to say: "thank you for saying good luck!" If I did wrong or offended you please correct me!

1. Okay. I just don't like it when people simply put a few rips together which are of HQ, and they earn the whole respect of the other users for using wow rips (which is on a site note, not illegal but will mostly will reject your map when you upload it).
2. It looks good though really. I never said it doesn't look good, and I didn't want to point out your flaws like: OHMFGZ NO VEGETATIONZ HAHAZ THIS SHITZ. The whole point of it was that you should work on it more.
3. Oh wait let me think no. I don't think of myself as the master of all map makers, nor do I want to be it. But using custom models especially made for wc3 modding is something completly different as using models from other GAMES.
5. I suggested you that you shouldn't use the secon variaton type of the shrub doodad, I don't see what you don't understand here?

If you didn't realised, my comment was not to put your map down, it was critism, critism to make your map better.
And I never said your map was a rip wtf.

 

[tobyfat50]

1. Okay. I just don't like it when people simply put a few rips together which are of HQ, and they earn the whole respect of the other users for using wow rips (which is on a site note, not illegal but will mostly will reject your map when you upload it).
2. It looks good though really. I never said it doesn't look good, and I didn't want to point out your flaws like: OHMFGZ NO VEGETATIONZ HAHAZ THIS SHITZ. The whole point of it was that you should work on it more.
3. Oh wait let me think no. I don't think of myself as the master of all map makers, nor do I want to be it. But using custom models especially made for wc3 modding is something completly different as using models from other GAMES.
5. I suggested you that you shouldn't use the secon variaton type of the shrub doodad, I don't see what you don't understand here?

If you didn't realised, my comment was not to put your map down, it was critism, critism to make your map better.
And I never said your map was a rip wtf.

Ok "Fan"! you are right! guess i was overreacting a little bit, had a couple of bad days recently and got a litle agressive on something so trivial. Sory!
guess i'll look into it. The wow models aren't completely identical, the skin is altered a bit, but if it get`s me rejected i think i'll try something different.
I don't have too much free time recently, so that's why i need someone to help me with my map if not i think i'll try to make it all by my self or if else kill it finaly. i assure you i still got some maps that are completly original and that will knock you of your chair but did`t post them (yet).

I'm not trying to pick a bone with anyone...

All comments and criticism are appreciated!

 

[Gausslander]

It reminds me of Goris' work, in that everyone praises them for beautiful art but in reality it's all ripped from other games. Of course, you only rip from WoW, so you're only stealing from the creators of Warcraft III, and no one else. So that totally excuses you for any wrong-doing, amirite?

 

[tobyfat50]

Lets call them conversion maps. Altho i have a feeling that it's pointless to say it.

 

[tobyfat50]

Okz, I will try to replace the wow doodads with my hand made s*** although they don't look to good on this map, guess i'll have to do better ones ------> such a pain...

 

[tobyfat50]

May i say that i'm working on 3 other projects + my job, guess i'll just focused on this map if i want to get anything done.

 

[Aeroblyctos]

I think you're a bit too eager at the moment. Slow down, don't watch the tread every second, don't make too many projects same time, don't double or even triple post etc. You're gonna get tired if you continue like that. Plan and think more otherwise I'm afraid you'll fail all your projects.

About your terrain, I like it. Good luck.

 

[PROXY]

The new terrain is really refreshing and new now, the color sheme fits better together too
I suggest you to use the grass doodad from the utm and spam it a little bit everywhere, so there is some more grass itself. It really looks way better now, keep it up!

 

[tobyfat50]

I'm not a big fan of the overly bright color combinations...

By the way, here's a couple of models that might add to the high quality feel of the terrain:
Cloud
Water

I think the clouds are a good idea, just played with them on my map!
Thank you!

 

[Sorceress]

thank you! dl your map! you new here as well?!

Nono, i'm just.. what do you say.. a watcher
I admire your work. Hope you will keep on working on this.

 

[jxtranghero]

The World is perfect amazing!!!

 

[Bernkastel]

Hau~ Kawaii! Omochikaeri!
Uhh... Sorry i couldnt control myself.. The lights seem.. Amazing.

 

[tobyfat50]

Terrain almost finished all I need now is to find a coder.
If you like the light go to http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/terrain-board-267/toby-light-engine-205532/

 

[RiotZ]

It's just import spam, BUT that said, it's effective use of said imports, so I give it a 6\10 rating on a terrain scale. Though you botched the grass areas.

 

[tobyfat50]

Perhaps I should make a list for the rips and models I made in the description.

 

[Reaper51]

This is map is an awesome breath of fresh air for wc3, even if it has rips.

 

[tobyfat50]

Like i said in the description, I am replacing the rips. And thank you.

 

[RiotZ]

This is map is an awesome breath of fresh air for wc3, even if it has rips.

You're a breath of ass breath.

Anyway, so this is supposed to be an AoS or something? CTF? And what are the models the players are getting?

 

[tobyfat50]

Good point! I will add some more description on the units and models when I make the next update.
- for now I'm searching for a coder -

 

[Chucky]

beautifull terain you've got there man, I especially liked the chinese dragon scene and the Buddha waterfall ...too bad it's unplayable..

 

[dragonslarger]

Very epic terrain.when i was looking i realised tat pic 9 had a issue (if not 9 then with the massive dragon statue in the gate)Anyway the wall texture is streached witch looks very uggly.

 

[RiotZ]

Btw, one of those big pink trees is on stone, which is strange, because trees don't grow on concrete, granite, etc, fix that.

It's visible in pic 5, of second stage of development.

 

[tobyfat50]

You are right about that. It is also visible in the final stage
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I would like to add that all your comments are apreciated, didn't use to listen to people before so I made this map in complete ignorance without reading any rules. I fear that my map will have to suffer some modifications until it becomes a reality and I didn't find a coder yet so I'm stopping for the moment until I find one.
Just Have to say that the project is still alive and will continue walking towards completion.

 

[Geries]

I think some trees are too bright cause of the additive layer. I recommend you to change the additive's visiblity alpha a lot lower.

 

[tobyfat50]

I'll look into that. Thanks!

 

[Geries]

That is one for example, the pink-blossom tree in the middle

 

[tobyfat50]

Yeah! think I did that in the new version as well but only on part of the roots, I'll fix this minor things in sec version of the map but this is a playable map so it doesn't really matter.
There are some trees that grow partially on rocks.
Still need a coder. RECRUITMENT (need Coders)

 

[RiotZ]

Yeah! think I did that in the new version as well but only on part of the roots, I'll fix this minor things in sec version of the map but this is a playable map so it doesn't really matter.
There are some trees that grow partially on rocks.
Still need a coder. RECRUITMENT (need Coders)

What are you coding Jass?

 

[tobyfat50]

- Max players
- Include Team Play
- 3rd person camera - USED (Advanced Camera, Keyboard & Movement System)
- Keyboard Control Fighting system - (need a battle system like Heroes of Genesia.)
- Jump system
- Collision system
- Lots of heroes
- Intend to add CTF and other modes in future versions

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DEVELOPMENT TEAM!

* TERRAINER - Tobyfat50
* JASS CODER - open
* UNITS AND ABILITIES - open
* MODELER - open
* WRITER - open
* CINEMATICS - open

Yes! All these systems are made in jass so I need JASS CODER. As for "MODELER, WRITER, CINEMATICS" I could partially do them myself but don't have time anymore so a team would be nice.

This will be a campaign.
The map you see in the screenshots will be the first chapter in the campaign where the hero will train and fight monsters, the perfect place to meditate!
I intend to make a demo at first.

IF anyone would like to join, I would like to say that there is no rush as I am taking a long break on the hive.
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Asian Garden RECRUITMENT (need Coders)

 

[EloTheMan]

You do know that 3D camera systems creates more limits for wc3 unless you zoom them out a lot.

Anyway, I like your terrain and theme ^^

 

[tobyfat50]

What do you mean? I am using max field of view and it works flawlessly!

 

[EloTheMan]

What do you mean? I am using max field of view and it works flawlessly!

No its not like that; when you have a 3D camera system there will be times when your "Unit" blocks the line of sight for you to cast spells on targets that are close up.

This can be prevented if you have a good angle and an adjusted distance for the camera position.

Also there is 2 bugs I'm aware of that this kind of system can create.
1. Sound bug, wc3 works with sound positioning and the sound you hear comes from the current ground position of your camera, if the camera is angled you will hear the sound from the angled position.
2. Click bug, ok I'm not sure this one affects systems that are combined with movement keys but I will tell you anyway.
When you have a cliff at your back (from your unit angle) and gives a movement order to the ground the unit will be ordered to go to the cliff instead

If there are any more questions about this let me know, I can also provide with pictures to explain it better.

 

[tobyfat50]

Good points you have there man! I know there are bugs in the camera system as well, but, I will have to strol whith them.
I'm not so sure about the click bug.
Although I am not a coder, I would appreciate your tips.
The distance to target of the camera is about "300" I think.

 

[maddeem]

I love the models and the textures, but the way you laid it out looks horrible. (Your waterfall is the worst)