Social Groups

[Ralle]

I have deleted 344 social groups and disabled the creation of new ones.
I know some of you will hate me for this but most of the social groups were just spam and not useful. I have now restricted the creation of new groups to shamans and me.
We will hopefully soon have a ruleset on how to deal with social groups.

EDIT:

Originally Posted by Ralle

I have disabled social groups for now. I have reimported all the old groups. Hakeem will start a purge next time I see him.

[hvo-busterkomo]

Thank you, Ralle. While originally not a bad idea, the social groups have caused a lot of drama, and their memes are just annoying. Also, what do you mean by Global Moderators?

I'm not sure how a ruleset implantation would help. If the creation is restricted to admins, then the groups that would be created would be focused on something other than the social aspect, which is perfectly fine.

[Hakeem]

I'm noticing a very interesting pattern in the groups that were kept...

Originally Posted by hvo-busterkomo

Thank you Ralle. While not a bad idea, the social groups have caused a lot of drama, and their memes are just annoying.

OH! DRAMA! BZZT! IT'S DRAMA! THE ANSWER IS DRAMA! I'M SURE OF IT!

Aside from hideous usage of buzzword, the groups came after the meme. The duck groups being deleted hasn't changed a single avatar that I know of. Of course, I may be wrong, so feel free to cite... OH. WAIT.


Okay, yeah, so it is best to have rules before you go about doing something, but how are we supposed to make rules without any information on how people use the feature? Without using all the groups that had been made so far as a reference, we have to start the rule making process again. This means constant rule revision. If we use the old groups as a reference, we have lots of material that we can use to make a solid set of rules.

[hvo-busterkomo]

Originally Posted by Hakeem

Aside from hideous usage of buzzword, the groups came after the meme. The duck groups being deleted hasn't changed a single avatar that I know of. Of course, I may be wrong, so feel free to cite... OH. WAIT.

Regardless of the chronological order of the groups and the meme, the meme would have never such an impact without the social groups. They were used to meet, recruit, plan, whatever.

[Hakeem]

Originally Posted by hvo-busterkomo

Regardless of the chronological order of the groups and the meme, the meme would have never such an impact without the social groups. They were used to meet, recruit, plan, whatever.

Without the social groups a thread would have been made. In fact, several were. This changes nothing.

[Skudgemuffin]

[hvo-busterkomo]

Originally Posted by Hakeem

Without the social groups a thread would have been made. In fact, several were. This changes nothing.

We can debate all we want. Without anyway of knowing for sure, it's pretty much a waste of time.

[Hakeem]

Why did you bother bringing it up, if it is an invalid point?

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

The Jury lives on.

But really, now all you need to do is delete rep.

[Deathcom3s]

Does it matter why he brought it up? There's no need to continue discussing it.

While this may anger a few people, I think overall motive for deleting them was reasonable. Most of them were full of spam and completely useless.

[hvo-busterkomo]

Originally Posted by Hakeem

Why did you bother bringing it up, if it is an invalid point?

I didn't bring it up to be discussed. It was a loose point established by my original post. The focus was on complimenting the good decisions made by Ralle (and the rest of the administration?). Besides, it's not exactly on topic.

Okay, yeah, so it is best to have rules before you go about doing something, but how are we supposed to make rules without any information on how people use the feature? Without using all the groups that had been made so far as a reference, we have to start the rule making process again. This means constant rule revision. If we use the old groups as a reference, we have lots of material that we can use to make a solid set of rules.

Fair point, but administrators should be able to judge whether or not a group has the site's well being in mind. There's a reason why Rui's groups still remain, while ones without reasonable justification have been removed.

[Belgarath]

Pretty good, IMO. They never had any use to me, so I really don't mind, and apparently they've been shit :P
Also, the "duck buzz" was overrated IMO. It lasted for like, 2 days, and people already changed their avatars.

[PurplePoot]

Finally (And for those of you who will inevitably blame Ralle, I deserve some blame too).

[DarkHorse08]

well some people might hate you but not me

anyway what you did is better to avoid spam and everything..

also to improve Hiveworkshop

[Hakeem]

Originally Posted by Deathcom3s

While this may anger a few people, I think overall motive for deleting them was reasonable. Most of them were full of spam and completely useless.

Yeah, most, but all of them? No. Most definitely not.

Originally Posted by hvo-busterkomo

It was a loose point established by my original post. The focus was on complimenting the good decisions made by Ralle (and the rest of the administration?).

Yeah, and it contradicts the focus of my post that it is a hasty decision that is not wise. The question is which of us is right. You don't make yourself right by giving loose points.

Originally Posted by hvo-busterkomo

There's a reason why Rui's groups still remain

Yeah, because those were the only two brought up explicitly as "not spam." If any others had been mentioned at the time, they probably would have been kept. But the decision was made too fast for anyone to give a proper list of what to keep.

Originally Posted by Belgarath

They never had any use to me

I'm sure everyone who made a group feels the same way. This is sarcasm, by the way.

Originally Posted by Belgarath

apparently they've been shit :P

So you really have no idea what they were like? Tell me, why do you bother posting your comments on this if you never had anything to do with them?