See Inferno, son, you may want to throw the whole 'your rage is pointless' in my face but being wrong all the time must suck ass.
Zwieb is 100% correct. And, you're fucking terrible lol. I gave you the answer, repeatedly, in quite friendly formats and each time you had a fucking cry because nobody agreed with your shit.
Keep in mind, your bitchy attitude started my off. If you whinge back at me, just expect it, you fucking child. This has absolutely nothing to do with politics, considering your style of making a point by being a bitch isn't exactly political either I'm not sure where you get off making such a pointless remark. Also, keep in mind, that the occasional swear word may be linked to rage, but isn't always rage related. The goal of my arguments on here, as they always tend to be, is to belittle the idiot that has attempted to trivialise valid input put in by myself or another player.
Please actually learn every angle of an argument before approaching with such a pathetic excuse of a debate in future. This isn't your first terrible idea, and it won't be your last. No, my ideas aren't all perfect, but I tend to approach people who disagree with them with a better attitude than the shit you said a page ago. You had a cry, nobody listened, you continued to cry and thus you got, I'll admit, an unnecessary amount of aggression but I assure you, this is not rage lol. The surprising thing is, you've completely neglected the idea that not only did I fully support one of your ideas, I stormed in with a massive backup of information.
Yeah, the last comment was unnecessary, I'm just not particularly fond of people like you. It doesn't mean I'll attempt to shut down your ideas in future or make an enemy of you. The statement may seem as aggressive as the rest of the post but it brings forward the same reasoning, if you can't take being told no because your idea is bad, take it to the actual game maker or fuck off with it. It's completely up to you.
You may think yourself in the right here but I assure you, one final time, you were wrong. You argued, in a childlike an ineffective manner, a point that had at least three answers put across to you over the thread. All valid, all better than pissing off an entire community.
Just keep in mind in the future, if you act like a little bitch to me, you will get what you deserve. Though, despite common opinion, I only bring this shit out when needed.
Oh, loving that whole, final little attempt at an insult there. You talk about assuming and then, as the common hypocritical douchebag does, and I know'cause I've been there too, you say something stupid and generalise an entire person because he disagreed with you.
Thats funny.
You're funny.
The only reason why I haven't deleted all the posts from you two about this dispute is because then the thread bugs and shows the wrong amount of pages and I don't like that.
See that as a warning please. This is getting way out of line.
You missed the point. Deleting only the posts that I find offensive doesn't make any sense. I need to delete all posts that create the context aswell, in order to not make this thing going on. This has nothing to do with any personal issues or my personal oppinion.So when Vestra starts raging, cursing, and insulting constantly just because somebody has a different opinion, and I respond calmly, that means I'm supposed to have my posts deleted? I haven't gone out of line, all I've done is voiced my opinion that just so happens to differ from Vestra's.
It's not your oppinion that is the problem. It isn't Vestra's oppinion that is the problem either. It's the way you both communicate with each other.If it's out of line just for me to have a different opinion or idea, then I guess your thread is pretty pointless. If everyone has to have the exact same ideas and opinions, then why even bother having a thread for them to communicate in?
I don't see why you need to insult me personally, when I was just trying to stop a pointless argument as a person not involved, but well, you might have your reasons.I thought you were an intelligent map maker, but I guess you're an idiot. I've lost my respect for you.
Go ahead and delete this post, it's the only one that's actually insulting, but you'll still be an idiot afterwards.
You missed the point. Deleting only the posts that I find offensive doesn't make any sense. I need to delete all posts that create the context aswell, in order to not make this thing going on. This has nothing to do with any personal issues or my personal oppinion.
It's not your oppinion that is the problem. It isn't Vestra's oppinion that is the problem either. It's the way you both communicate with each other.
I don't see why you need to insult me personally, when I was just trying to stop a pointless argument as a person not involved, but well, you might have your reasons.
Just because I haven't expressed my oppinion on this idea (basicly because I wanted to see what others thought of that before):
I think you have a point with the Alt+Q thing. But it's extremely OS specific. Most OS don't close windows with Alt+Q (Windows 7 doesn't, for example). And I wouldn't want to change a popular hotkey layout just because of that. It's the same with the localized keys. I can not make exceptions for everyone because their keyboard layout is different. I live in germany. Y and Z and interchanged here. Although I might end up being at a personal disadvantage, I decided to just deal with it and use the Z and Y keys for hotkeys (actually, I haven't run into the point where I would need another column of keys, but the time will come), because most people will have the english keyboard layout.
If they do not, they can always manually assign the hotkeys.
I simply can not ensure perfect compatibility for everyone.
I'm actually pretty disappointed to see that there's people out there thinking I discourage discussions or suggestions.
I've been making this for several years now and heck, everyone that knows me for so long just KNOWS that I'm always open for suggestions. I always took them into consideration if they sounded reasonable. In fact, there's a lot of things that made their way into Gaias Retaliation that I never liked much by myself, but added for the sake of the community.
ain't nobody got time to read all these posts tl;dr but what I gathered from my lazy skimming was that zweiebel 'threatened' to delete ALL the posts not one from just one specific individual. He's just tryin to prevent any argument from getting out of hand. No need to attack him and insult him zwielb is an awesome guy doing somthing amazing in his free time for us and he doesnt need it. Sure you guys had a dispute but it happens take it to private messages Im sick and tired of seeing this argument and this isn't the place for it.
I think you have a point with the Alt+Q thing.
I agree with everything Vestra just said. There are multiple ways around the whole alt+Q/Q issue already within the game with the:
The -qi command
The ingame wc3 health bar option
The ability to customise keys through use of a textfile or Warkeys
I'll report your post inferno to Ralle so you get at least banned for 1 week, he told you both to STOP and you haven't (specially you) what the f*** do you think by insulting zwieb? what has he done to you??? you're a joke dude.
Healing has to be very precise, the simple access Q/Q provides helps newer players with this curve.
I have used the solution of modifying the text file, but I still think that basically hacking your game is a bit excessive of a solution for you to expect every player to take.
In-game war3 healthbar options ruins the terrain which had so much effort put into it, by covering it with healthbars all the time.
There you have it. You just said you found a solution to its problem, but now you don't want to apply it for the only reason of the famous moral saying (or whatever) "hacking ruins everything", whereas you're only customizing the game at your personal way, and that's really not a bit of a problem.
-qi still doesn't work for mercenaries which are very important when you're on a 2-man team.
In-game war3 healthbar options ruins the terrain which had so much effort put into it, by covering it with healthbars all the time.
I have used the solution of modifying the text file, but I still think that basically hacking your game is a bit excessive of a solution for you to expect every player to take.
Yes, people could change hotkeys by hacking the text files, but it's absurd to expect every average player to, especially when most of them have never seen the forums.
Healing abilities are the only ones that you would need healthbars while casting. As such, they are the only abilities that should not be mapped to Q. Mapping other abilities like Soul Strike to Q would be harmless.
There are plenty of keys easily reachable in the area; Q, W, E, R, T, A, S, D, F, G, Z, X, C, V, B, without stretching any fingers, and it really isn't hard to get used to different hotkeys at all. You might screw up a few times during the first 5-30 minutes, but that's really not a big deal compared to the total amount of time we've all put into this in the past.
Q isn't the only key that's easy to hit. I've had no problems hitting any of the other hotkeys either in games with QWER, ASDF, ZXCV hotkey setups. They're all very easy to hit, except Alt+QQ quits, while Alt+WW, Alt+EE, Alt+RR and such don't
I'm not saying it has to be changed. I'm just saying, it's a problem with a simple solution. Hell, you could even do it via triggers to have heal be triggered by two different hotkeys, one being its new hotkey which would be displayed on the ability, and then the old Q for people who don't know how to learn a new hotkey, so that whenever anyone accidentally hits Q for heal would still get to heal. And, of course, Q itself would have to not be replaced by other abilities.
Then everybody's happy; people who prefer Q still have Q, and people who don't want to alt+Q+Q have another hotkey they could press to heal.