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Old 10-22-2008, 07:02 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Sycophants in the Hive.

Ive noticed there's a lot of suck ups kissing mod ass for rep and usually these people are the first to jump on band wagons and the first one to break the insulting rule. Ive also noticed certain mods not acting like mods.

My question to this is why is this tolerated? There's a limit of whistle blowing and why are mods allowed to run rampant when they act like morons who flame users?
If the average user who doesn't care about being a mod shunned this type of behavior and thought before they leap into everything the big rep names do (which Ive noticed happen to be some of the dumbest people I've seen on the internet) these sycophantic suck up trolls would be forced to either change to their new environment or simply be forced to leave. This applies to the sycophant users who became mods as well. if the users shun them at every turn they will be removed unless the management on this site is broken.
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Question 1: How can one be the "first to jump on the bandwagon"? The fact that they're first contradicts the fact that they're joining the crowd.
Question 2: Why, exactly, should mods be intolerant of people agreeing with them?
Question 3: Where is this "limit to whistle-blowing" you speak of? In fact, why should there be a limit in the first place? Should we be angry at the fact that people are making our job easier?
Question 4: You seem to have said a lot without really saying anything. You've mentioned that mods just run rampant. Care to elaborate?
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Old 10-22-2008, 07:58 AM   #3 (permalink)
 
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Question 1: How can one be the "first to jump on the bandwagon"? The fact that they're first contradicts the fact that they're joining the crowd.
My statement implies that the bandwagon has been established already and they are latching onto a general idea for popularity.
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Question 2: Why, exactly, should mods be intolerant of people agreeing with them?
Its easy to tell the difference between someone who is agreeing because they agree and someone who agrees for the sake of kissing mod ass. This is about the latter group of people.
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Question 3: Where is this "limit to whistle-blowing" you speak of? In fact, why should there be a limit in the first place? Should we be angry at the fact that people are making our job easier?
Again, this is easy to distinguish between whistle blowing that is constructive and whistle blowing that serves as yet another way to suck up to the mods or establish a sense of superiority. Unless the rules broken are major the trade off for mods getting help on moderation is allowing creates a festering ground for the sycophants which I have mentioned and which can possibly allow them to get into a position of power.
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Question 4: You seem to have said a lot without really saying anything.
In a metaphorical nutshell: Why do users tolerate suck ups on this forum when it will ultimately lead to very bad things in the future?
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You've mentioned that mods just run rampant. Care to elaborate?
I've seen mods make fun of people for typos. I've talked to users who have messages concerning issues or questions ignored my mods. Of course this isn't something that every mod does but when its found that mods have lost their capacity to moderate either due to the fact that they simply don't care or due to the fact that they have ass-kissed the general public why don't the users boycott them?

This thread is about awareness since that is the first step in dealing with these types of people.
You've obviously been offended by this post so I request you don't come into this thread again since your judgment has been compromised this way my topic retains its dignity.
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Its easy to tell the difference between someone who is agreeing because they agree and someone who agrees for the sake of kissing mod ass. This is about the latter group of people.
Is it, now?
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If you don't like it here, why are you here after all?
If there's room for improvement, why not?
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Actually I'm not going to be here for much longer. I'm growing tired of the general people Ive found here.
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Sure, but as I understood him, he only whines about
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a lot of suck ups kissing mod ass for rep and usually these people are the first to jump on band wagons and the first one to break the insulting rule. Ive also noticed certain mods not acting like mods.
If he wants to improve, he needs to offer his solutions.
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This thread is about awareness since that is the first step in dealing with these types of people.
This was my goal and a step to the solution.
I can only show people the obvious and promote awareness. I cannot fix the issue by myself.
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Actually I'm not going to be here for much longer. I'm growing tired of the general people Ive found here.
then stop being a drama llama and leave
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This
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I'm sick of people like you, go fuck yourself because obviously no one would touch your over weight nerdy ass.
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Thank you. The rest of you can go fuck yourselves because no one else will touch your anal retentive nerdy asses.
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You know what? Now that I know how this site works I'm going to go ahead and simply say whats on my mind: Go fuck yourself.
Does this make you a troll?
Lemme guess.... yes?
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then stop being a drama llama and leave
By leave I mean only submit material here since this site is a good place for resources.
I'll "leave" when I'm ready to leave. Until then shut up and ignore me.

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You know what I can show?
This

and this

and this

Does this make you a troll?
Lemme guess.... yes?
#1 was my fault. That comment was totally uncalled for.

#2 was thanking the one person in a thread who helped me while the others made fun of a typo. Even a mod was doing it so it was more than deserved.

#3 A user was being passive aggressive and rude to me so I told him to go fuck himself.

2/3 were deserved and the 1st one was a mistake on my part.

Next lets look at the definition of a troll:
Troll (Internet) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone who posts controversial and irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum or chat room, with the intention of provoking other users into an emotional response[1] or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion.[2]
#1 Irrelevant? Nope it was in response to off topic posts which would make the others trolls.
#2 Controversial...well sometimes but again its a controversial thread like this one which is ON TOPIC.
#3 Provoking Emotional response? Quite frankly you have no clue about my motives for posting and the 3rd insult I gave was for someone presuming to know my motives for posting. Rest assured I don't care about emotional responses I'd prefer it if people wouldn't get emotional so topics like this could be taken seriously.

Now according to the definition lets see if YOU are a troll.

#1 Irrelevant? yep this had nothing to do with the subject matter of the thread.
#2 I don't know if I'd call this controversial but it seems like a poor attempt to label me as a troll.
#3 Intent to provoke an emotional response? Well this post serves absolutely no other purpose.

At minimum you're 2/3rds troll and you have the audacity to call me one? Go fuck yourself :)
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(he's passive aggressive)

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A user was being passive aggressive and rude to me so I told him to go fuck himself.
go fuck yourself

furthermore, all your points towards squiggy being a troll are completely invalid

1. him pointing out that you are a troll is related to the subject matter, as because stated in your first post:

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Ive noticed there's a lot of suck ups kissing mod ass for rep and usually these people are the first to jump on band wagons and the first one to break the insulting rule.
and him proving that you are a troll; therefore proves that you are a hypocrite to your own point

2. "controversial and irrelevant"; this could be classed as controversial; but it is not irrelevant

3. the intent is to make you look like the idiot you are

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go fuck yourself

furthermore, all your points towards squiggy being a troll are completely invalid

1. him pointing out that you are a troll is related to the subject matter, as because stated in your first post:



and him proving that you are a troll; therefore proves that you are a hypocrite to your own point

2. "controversial and irrelevant"; this could be classed as controversial; but it is not irrelevant

3. the intent is to make you look like the idiot you are
I thought I told you to shut up and ignore me (seriously there's a function you can use to ignore me and I WANT you to use it right now). I could pick apart your post but I'm better than to play into your stupid little games. So unless you have something to say about the OPENING POST don't address me directly again...oh just so you know I'm not passive aggressive. I'm aggressive. Here's the definition to passive aggressive.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive...ssive_behavior
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Passive-aggressive behavior refers to passive, sometimes obstructionist resistance to following through with expectations in interpersonal or occupational situations. It can manifest itself as learned helplessness, procrastination, stubbornness, resentment, sullenness, or deliberate/repeated failure to accomplish requested tasks for which one is (often explicitly) responsible. It is a defense mechanism, and (more often than not) only partly conscious. For example, suppose someone does not wish to attend a party. A passive-aggressive response in that situation might involve taking so long to get ready that the party is nearly over by the time they arrive.
Don't use big words you don't understand. :)

Now that Ive dealt with the little boy I don't want anymore distractions. Please only post ON TOPIC.

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why are mods allowed to run rampant when they act like morons who flame users?
While I'll agree with this sentiment, your overall manner of posting is annoying and trollish and will be looked over by everyone as such.
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