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01-19-2007, 02:56 AM
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Songs for the Deaf
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Rep Solution
Okay, I was going to call the thread 'rep problem' but I knew that would give you guys the wrong idea. So here's my solution to a new rep problem. It seems that certain, er... immature users... not naming any names... are actually proud of and/or are enjoying their negative reputation status. This is obviously a problem as negative reputation is meant to be a sort of punishment, but since these users have nullified any meaning of negative reputation, it no longer matters. I feel that we need to impose some sort of consequence to go along with negative rep, as the moral punishment just doesn't seem to be doing it, since none of these users are learning from recieving negative rep, they just continue on breaking rules and/or being idiots regardless of the consequences, because there ARE no consequences.
These users are proud of having more negative reputation then other notorious users, happy with their "blood diamonds" because they "look cooler". This is obviously not what we want users to think about the reputation system, so something needs to be changed. Whether its some way of getting the point across about how noobish you look with that much negative rep, or whether its imposing bans or suspensions from the site after reaching a certain negative rep count, I don't really care. Something needs to be done, and I just want the Admins and Mods to know that. A solution is obviously up to them to formulate and decide upon, i'm merely trying to raise awareness to stop these noobs from wrecking any value that our reputation system once had, as well as encouraging other users that its alright to recieve negative rep.
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01-19-2007, 03:04 AM
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mmm you kinda relize all rep is a little green or red looking gif file on a webpage right? It really dosen't have that much meaning...really..
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01-19-2007, 03:05 AM
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Cute is my middlename
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Xlightscreen, i dont think you understand what brads saying...
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01-19-2007, 03:15 AM
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No I don't think he does either.... anyway Bob is intending on putting in a system that works like this:
-5 rep= 3 day ban -10 rep= 1 week ban and -15 rep= permaban
This still has to be discussed and all the rest so nothing is final but this is what I have planned.
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01-19-2007, 03:30 AM
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yea I do and im saying -rep just means you didn't follow the rules and positive rep means people think you did something good...Its not that big of a deal its just like getting gold on a game its cool when you got tons of it but in the end its just fake stuff lol. I mean if there really spamming the crap out the site and breaking the rules yea ban them there dosen't need to be know fancy system over little gif files lol.
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01-19-2007, 08:35 PM
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No it isn't at all. You get positive rep when you assist the community, like posting a good tutorial, sharing some skins or models, helping someone out with a trigger or making a post that is really meaningful, descriptive etc. Negative rep is a way of punishing users for acting like idiots, it shows other users that those with negative rep are the noobs, and if they get negative rep themselves then they will clearly be associated with said noobs. Rep is a way of managing and rewarding users, because it either makes them look good or look bad. In real life, if someone has a horrible reputation and they offer you advice, are you going to really take it? If your most hated enemy suddenly starts being nice to you are you going to trust them? Of course not. Forum rep is supposed to work the same way. It's the same with a good reputation. If you ask someone for art tips and they are well known around your school, city, whatever, as being a great artist with a lot of talent, you would take their tips and advice right? You wouldn't if this person was a horrible artist.
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01-20-2007, 03:12 AM
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but who do we got to show off to? the only people that should even really care about rep is the users otherwise the guest that come to this site go to one part of it the recource section lol. So the Rep that users of this site have dosen't expand no further then the users of this site so its really not a big deal.
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01-20-2007, 08:22 AM
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Jesus was a zombie
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what brad is saying is because rep is the most used punishment used around here, we should make it worth something, for example that thing I thought of where 5 -rep = 3 day ban, 10 -rep = 1 week ban and -15 rep = pernament ban, and then perhaps some sought of reward you can get for having good rep would make it worth something more as well.
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01-20-2007, 08:47 AM
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I'd increase those amounts, -15 = permaban seems a little harsh to me. And maybe you could put other restrictions into place as well/instead of bans, such as avatars, signatures and custom user titles being disabled. Alot of people are proud of their avatars/signatures so that might encourage them to act better.
-*meow*
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01-20-2007, 09:23 AM
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Only if it pays...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brad.dude03
No I don't think he does either.... anyway Bob is intending on putting in a system that works like this:
-5 rep= 3 day ban -10 rep= 1 week ban and -15 rep= permaban
This still has to be discussed and all the rest so nothing is final but this is what I have planned.
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Well thats to scary...
Lets say when u have 1 -rep you can only post 20 posts a day,when you have another -rep the 20 will decrease with 2 and so make you only able to post 18 messages a day.. until all your messages are reduced to 0 you receive a ban of a week or something and then you get +1 mercyfull rep again so you can post 2 posts again and then behave because else you will have 0 posts again so you need to increase your rep to post
When you have +rep you can just post unlimited offcourse xD
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01-20-2007, 09:32 AM
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Cute is my middlename
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um..limiting post...is rather pathetic..and...stupid...
and i think those limits are fine..
At wc3sear you get banned easily. Well, in the old days.
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[11-40-17] Elenai: Hello, and before you ask (I am male, trust me I get that question alot)
[11-40-42] Kimberly: I am also male.
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[13-34-30] Elenai: I am inside you shaman....do you like me inside you?
[13-34-58] Kimberly: that sounded so wrong Elenai
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01-20-2007, 10:03 AM
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Well hope you have some automated system for that becuase I dought the mods are going to wan't to babysit a bunch of neg repps lol.
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01-20-2007, 10:41 AM
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Rep is a dumb system anyway. I mean, look at wc3c. :O
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01-20-2007, 11:05 AM
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We are currently working on another rep system. Our current reputation system are being abused, thus it will be changed. You will know when we do.
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01-20-2007, 02:54 PM
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Community Moderator
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I don't think that -15 rep is harsh at all. Look how much I post? See my post count? Yeah, do I have neg rep? No. You can still post all you want and not get neg rep people, just don't friggen spam. -15 rep, thats FIFTEEN chances for someone to straighten out their act, if they can't stop being an asshole and are given 15 tries to overcome themselves, well then they don't deserve to use these forums.
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