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03-31-2008, 06:40 AM
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Hunting
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What do you think about the morality of hunting?
I have never been hunting, but I think people should have the right to do it. In my opinion, as long as it's body is put to use, your hunting is justified.
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03-31-2008, 06:42 AM
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Hunting for food? Sure, as long as the food is put to good use.
Hunting for recreation? A waste of life, disrespectful to life's essence and a terribly immoral thing. An abuse of power on the food chain, and a waste of power as well.
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04-03-2008, 01:29 AM
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If you're hunting for sport, it depends what you're hunting
For instance, seeing as I live in Australia, if you're hunting rabbits down, go right ahead. Just only kill the rabbits, because they're doing so much damage to the ecosystem here that they need to be wiped out and I have no complaints against doing it
Hunting something that isn't an ecological pest that is overpopulated and nigh impossible for native creatures to kill it off though? Forget it. Unless its for food. But that's a whole other ballpark
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04-03-2008, 01:57 AM
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I think hunting is fine as long as you're not doing it for recreation and not using your super pwn automatic vulcan to slaughter animals. After all, it doesn't matter if you miss, you can pump out 100 rounds a second and have thousands of bullets left to spare, so the prey has no chance to escape!
That sure takes the fun out of it in my opinion.
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04-04-2008, 12:11 AM
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Hunt for food, Hunt for sustainance, Hunt for the sake of life (like keeping deer populations down so that they dont destroy things)
If you hunt for mere pleasure...you disgust me.
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04-04-2008, 04:31 AM
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what if you need to test your new gatling gun to see its kill effectiveness?
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04-04-2008, 04:40 PM
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Nem, you shoot at a big rock :P
And yes, I agree with those above. If you aree hunting for food I don't care what animal you kill as long as you're going to use it for yours/others own well-being. Hunting for your own amusement, in other words killing a living thing just because you can, is rather... immoral. People who hunt to just mount a head on their wall is just disgusting
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04-05-2008, 06:54 PM
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meh
hunting for food is fine
hunting for killing isnt fine
hunting rare stuff that dosnet exsist is fine (its not real so how can you kill it?)
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04-06-2008, 12:34 AM
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Killing a cute fluffy bunny just for the heck of it ain't really what i would do in my spare time,although i don't really care why other people go hunting,as long as it doesn't affect me.
By the way,all of you who approved hunting for food,but not for sport,would you criticize someone who has mushrooms for dinner,but doesn't like them,so he grabs a gun,shoots a couple of animals and makes himself a tasty meal?
That's still hunting for food,but being that it's not necessary,and that the man who does it is probably as immoral as the one who hunts for sport.Both of them don't have to do it in order to survive,but it just makes them feel better.
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04-10-2008, 04:39 AM
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It depends on to what degree you treat nonhuman life, and, for that matter, unintelligent life. I personally think if you can raise an animal to be eaten, and you can raise an animal to be your slave, raising an animal to be shot for sport shouldn't be that far a stretch. By extension, I also have nothing against bestiality.
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04-14-2008, 01:23 AM
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I think hunting is ok if done for feeding reasons. But only if it is needed, I mean, I am not going to leave the town now to hunt animals in the nearest forest. I am referring to the guys at Africa (for example) that don't have supermarket near their homes, and then hunt is needed. It is also good for balancing reasons, as Elenai said.
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04-14-2008, 11:53 PM
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Now, I am not biased towards either side. I am not a hunter and therefore this doesn't bother me at all, also I live in massachusetts and that basically speaks for itself.
Animals hunt for recreation as well, and probably more gruesomely than we do. Spiders and scorpions eat their mates and even their babies. It's just nature I guess, to get the "thrill of the hunt" whether there's a moral or not. Also if you kill an animal and leave it there it provides food for other animals from insects to wolves. That's something to consider, I guess.
Now that the facts are lain down, here are my opinions. I think hunting for sport is borderline on good or bad, it's really a concern of ethics and, sadly, in most cases religion as well. If you're going to keep the hide and sell it to make fur coats or whatever, that's better than taking the corpse back, decaptiating it for a trophy and throwing it away.
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man who does it is probably as immoral as the one who hunts for sport
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We are "immoral" as you say every time we go to the supermarket and buy any animal product that was processed. Any time we buy leather or fur, any time we do just about anything in life. It's not immoral if everyone does it, in my opinion. It's just something the human race needs to step back and think about for a moment.
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04-16-2008, 12:17 AM
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Animals hunt for recreation as well, and probably more gruesomely than we do. Spiders and scorpions eat their mates and even their babies. It's just nature I guess, to get the "thrill of the hunt" whether there's a moral or not. Also if you kill an animal and leave it there it provides food for other animals from insects to wolves. That's something to consider, I guess.
We are "immoral" as you say every time we go to the supermarket and buy any animal product that was processed. Any time we buy leather or fur, any time we do just about anything in life. It's not immoral if everyone does it, in my opinion. It's just something the human race needs to step back and think about for a moment.
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"Immoral" is a term invented by the human mind, nature does lot's of things considered "immoral" by us. You already said, insects have no sense of emotions, immorality and other human stuff. Some kinds of flyes eat their own eggs in hard times. And now? Are them going to hell? lol.
About hunting, I see no problem with it since it is practiced like in nature, only for feeding reasons. The only problem is that if the human habbitants of the entire world decide to "hunt for real reasons" (for food), a slaughter would happen, which surely won't be rated as "immoral", because it had a valuable reason.
I agree with Void. And that's why such things as "morality" don't have any sense for me.
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04-16-2008, 12:58 AM
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If every single person on Earth killed their own cow, we would have more meat than we could eat.
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04-16-2008, 10:23 AM
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Hunting to cull is acceptable, its beneficial in some ways, most ways to the ecosystem.
Hunting for food is acceptable, its beneficial and a natural source of food. Sometimes its best to have wild animals as a food source as they are raised in a more natural environment with as less stress and contamination as possible. In farms and stocks they are often put under alot of stress from being crowded and diseases stricken due to environmental, diet and number issues.
Hunting for sport.. I believe hunting for sport is a ok but its not exactly beneficial to the ecosystem *WHEN ABUSED*. As long as its in moderation and done in a procedure where its done as painless and quickly as possible I think there is room for it, why? Because its human nature to kill for pleasure, its a natural thrill. There is nothing wrong with abit of natural sadistic behavior, I say its healthy for the mind and the spirit, believe its natural and its a part of life. Although, its not exactly "pointless" as the corpse is still a product and resource for things more than just food such as the bones (turned into charms and necklaces), skull (educational resource), pelt (clothing and decor), trophies (decor).
If that corpse was disposed of with nothing coming out of it then the purpose of its death was for "cheap thrills", this kind sadistic behavior is to be put in question. However, as I do carry about of this behaviour (in a sense) I still do know its wrong (this due to society labeling this as "immoral") but I am in support of it why? Because its a part of me, and it's a part of many human beings who's natural sadism may cross a line or two, it's a part of their natural but overly abnormal diet. However im trying to be rather reasonable here with logic here with this post and I dont wish to get people offended.
Death is a part of life, death is just as beautiful and as beneficial, if there was no death then their would be no beauty in life. This is what I believe, why? I cant exactly say, but its just how Iv come to think over observing life(+ living) and death.
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