As Global Warming Continues

Well I do hate to post short messages like that in here, but I felt it a valid counterpoint to a previous post.

Dinosaurs were idiots you say. As if 90% of our society is any better...

Personally, I tend toward the idea that global warming is a natural-occuring phenomena to which humans have done little to contribute. Obviously, our production of greenhouse gases, chloro-fluorocarbons, etc. has adverse effects, but it seems that the whole idea of those as a cause for global warming is just a little bit ill-thought-out. I can't verify the statement earlier about being late for an ice age (and rightly, I think it was probably made up), but this we do know: the Earth is coming out of an ice age, and as such it is entirely natural for things to heat up a bit. Humans are only a small part of the Earth, and it has its ways of making things right.

The Earth has been here for a lot longer than humans and it will be here for a lot longer as well. The contribution that we make to global warming just seems exceptionally insignificant in the grand scheme of things. The methane produced from bovine flatulence or from natural-occurring swamps causes holes in the ozone: does that mean we need to put filters on every cow's rear end and drain every swamp on the planet? In case you are ambivalent in answering this, the only logical answer is a no.

But here's the thing: it shouldn't matter whether or not we are contributing significantly to global warming. We can do something to better our lives, to develop technologies that could help us substantially in years to come, to cut manufacturing costs and decrease dependency on non-renewable energy sources; or, we can content ourselves with the fact that we are using the same inefficient and wasteful technologies that have been in use for over 80 years: cars are still cars, and a majority of energy still comes from the burning of coal and/or peat moss.

So, I think that leaves it up to you: embrace something that will, in the end help us to grow as a global community, or resolve to harbor stagnancy. You know my choice... now it's your turn to decide....

Methane is a greenhouse gas that contributes to the "warming" part (even though I've heard sea ice is expanding :/), but the point is a good one. And yeah, people should go green because it saves money, I couldn't care less that it helps the environment too.

Originally Posted by Teh_Ephy

Methane is a greenhouse gas that contributes to the "warming" part

I assumed people knew that. What many people don't know, however, is that it destroys atmospheric chemicals that aid in the break-down of other greenhouse gases, thus intensifying the problem...

Originally Posted by Steel_Stallion

Dont under estimate the most horrible weapon in the entire world.

Man

Don't forget the fact that man can do naught to stop the vengeance of the Earth.

Originally Posted by Dalaran_Guard

The methane produced from bovine flatulence or from natural-occurring swamps causes holes in the ozone: does that mean we need to put filters on every cow's rear end and drain every swamp on the planet?

Consider this: We have affected the bovine population.

Originally Posted by Steel_Stallion

Dont under estimate the most horrible weapon in the entire world.

Man

Don't forget our other top budget.

Medicine.

Originally Posted by Hakeem

Consider this: We have affected the bovine population.

Regardless, that's not the matter. That was a small point that I was making to bring out a larger realization...

I thought he was being sarcastic....

Well, if there is no global warming then we should be able to do whatever we like and release as much greenhouse gasses as we like and pollute the hell out of our planet since Global warming would NOT be real, thus there would be no effect from it.

The fact is, with or without the global warming, CO is still lethal, just like lead oxides and so on. My point? Quite simple. No, we can not do that, it's equivalent to shitting in our own mouth.

Global Warming is a fallacy, but the term it describes is still real, though not as much of a problem as the media portrays it.

True, media really made a mess out of it and dough it is all false, it could and is triggering some positive changes.

Originally Posted by Volvox

The fact is, with or without the global warming, CO is still lethal, just like lead oxides and so on.

Actually it isn't. Carbon monoxide is the dangerous molecule. It also happens to be what we exhale when we inhale CO₂

Originally Posted by Teh_Ephy

Global Warming is a fallacy, but the term it describes is still real, though not as much of a problem as the media portrays it.

So it's anywhere from leaving one person living to nothing happening at all? :p

Read before posting, CO = carbon monoxide. It latches on to hemoglobin where oxygen and carbon dioxide are supposed to come. Shortly, it prevents you from breathing. Carbon dioxide is also dangerous but only in very large amounts where it can cause acidosis(your blood's pH falls below 7) which leads to almost instant death. Lead oxides, i thought that was clear, any heavy metal causes poisoning and a really large problem is that our body can not get rid of it. Ephy said, it's not much of a problem, so i'd say no, he did not mean it that way.

1. Global warming will continue even if we don't pollute. as its the natural cycle between hot times and ice ages.
2. We will run out of oil (and almost every resource) WAY! before global warming becomes a real problem.

Nevertheles i think we shouldn't keep it to this. Because even a small temperature rise could have horrible results for the plants and trees of wich most are "climate-fragile" also "warming" isn't the only effect. it may start raining more often, or with heavier rains instead of small ones. causing more flashfloods killing bunches of people. Then it will also get dryer. causing the already poor afrikans to die in masses from starvation (unles anyone comes with a brilliant solution) quite ironicly it will get wetter in places with to much water, and dryer in places with a lack of water.

So altough a 1 or 2 degrees (celcius OR fahrenheit) doesn't sound to bad. It will make things ALOT worse in areas with already huge problems (hence afrika)