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04-14-2008, 11:28 PM
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Drugs
simple enough. if you are 16 or under your opinoin doesnt really count (see below for why) but feel free to post it anyways. the things i want to know are
A. have you ever tried a drug (eg. alcohol, weed, steroids etc) and if you have did you enjoy it?
B. Are you aware of the real dangers of different drugs? such as the common misconception that ecstacy is a very dangerous drug, when alchol and paracetamol are considerably more dangerous.
the reason i ask this is because there was recently a program on TV showing the dangers of different drugs. as expected drugs such as heroin and cocaine were at the top of the list but as you might not expect alcohol was at number 5 as the most dangerous drug. drugs such as ecstacy and LSD are low down the list (ranked 17/20 and 16/20 respectively). i found this very interesting because drugs that are supposedly very bad actually dont cause you much harm, while alcohol which is legal in most places is very bad for you and is much worse for you than even smoking.
the reason i say no under 16 year olds is because i expect alot of you to say "drugs are bad because my teacher/priest/parents say so" which is totally narrow minded and proves you havent bothered to make your own opinoin on anything yet....thats right you are a sheep.
anyways have your say.
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04-14-2008, 11:49 PM
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I've had second-hand weed smoke and that's just about it. I tried drinking once or twice before as well, but that doesn't really count because it wasn't really that much or strong.
Anyways for question B, well I think what they teach at school is a bit of an overstatement. Many drugs aren't so addictive that you have them once or twice a month it will do you that much harm. I think if you have a joint or three at a party it's no worse than getting drunk... But as far as quantity goes ecstasy is probably worse than alcohol. You get completely hammered that's more dangerous than one tablet but if you have as much ecstasy as there is in 6 shots of vodka well that would be just as bad.
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04-15-2008, 01:10 AM
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I've enjoyed copious amounts of alcohol and quite a bit of second-hand weed. I am apathetic when it comes to drugs. I think that weed is way overhyped (it can screw with your mind while you're still growing, but once you're in your twenties I don't see the problem). Ecstasy is fine by me as well, the only danger being that you have to have someone spotting just in case you forget to keep hydrated.
I wouldn't have any problem with LSD except the fact that it scares the shit out of me. Having a bad trip can fuck you up for life, and then having an acid flashback later in your life couild cause you to do something horrifying beyond belief. I don't wanna take that chance.
Like I said, i'm apathetic. Some of my friends do salvia, weed, shrooms, and time release oxycottin regularly, and I don't really give a shit, they're still cool people.
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04-15-2008, 05:47 AM
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Non-physical-dependance-building drugs taken in moderation and not at a time when they can cause harm (e.g. weed can set off things like schizophrenia and bipolar disorder in people ~<25 years old) is fine, IMO. Mind you, that does cut out a rather large portion of drugs anyway.
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04-15-2008, 06:06 AM
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Finally the best post on the hive ^^, but this is also the life of my entire high school. My family being German doomed me from the start for drinking. Bud eryday. Shrooms only when you got the time but worth every minute. Salvia is not worth the money you pay, and I can get it pretty cheap at the nearby Chinese Convience Story around 4.99 for x10, 7.99 x20, etc.
If I could say anything to people who do not do these things "alot" or at all if you ever do try them just dont do it all the time thats when it becomes a habbit  or dont try them at all
Keep the e to a min cant some people die off their first pill? and >< doesnt it drain your spinal fluid
I dont really know a lot about e thou only had it laced with bud which is dumbbbb btw.
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04-15-2008, 06:27 AM
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Meh, I've never seen the appeal of doing drugs in any fashion.. I have no desire to go on a trip, and I've never twisted my wants to conform to society.. I suppose you can say my opinion will never be fair considering I doubt I'll ever do them, but I personally have a negative view on them (mostly because I see no positive effects coming from doing them, only negative ones).
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04-15-2008, 06:36 AM
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its mostly an addicition for most drugs which is never good so I agree with you there, but mostly now its turned into a very social thing
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04-15-2008, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by donut3.5
mostly because I see no positive effects coming from doing them, only negative ones
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That's why marijuana is the only drug I would ever consider doing. I still wont do it, because I don't feel the need to get high.
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04-15-2008, 09:28 AM
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I never tried any drug, except alchocol, and it was twice, wasn't really strong (champaigne).
Besides, I am against any kind of drugs. If people around me do i, I will try anything to get them off the addiction, because people on drugs tend to act awkward at sometimes, which is not what I want to my friends. If I don't know you, and you use drugs, I don't really care. I never used drugs and never will. I even hate cigarets, and am also alergic to them.
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04-15-2008, 10:13 AM
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I've smoked marijuana once and only once in my life,out of sheer curiosity.I don't see anything special about it except that it makes you act like a total idiot.
I have been drunk a couple of times when i was still acting like a dumb and immature kid,and i haven't drank anything for a year and a half(except wine,and i have been consuming it in small amounts,once every three weeks,only during meals).
Some of my friends,however,have done all kinds of crap.Ecstasy,weed,some have even tried cocaine.They are pretty messed up,unable to make a reasonable sentence,broken and miserable after the drug effects wear off.
I don't have the need to do drugs.I'm somewhat happy with my life and i don't feel the need to run from reality by blurring my thoughts and choking my brain.
Drugs suck.Not only cause they occasionally kill,but because taking a drug is a mental equivalent of severing your limbs.
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04-15-2008, 08:54 PM
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see me personally i would only ever drink alcohol, which i do alot as it is basically englands national past time and ecstacy or MDMA because it has great positive effects, with virtually no adverse affects if taken in moderation. which is unlike pretty much every other drug, even coffie, where even if small amounts are taken over a long period of time it can do damage; ecstacy, unless taken in large amounts all at once, doesnt really harm you, infact, studies have proven that people who take ecstacy once a month have a considerably lower chance of becoming depressed. infact the most common drug misconceptions is that ecstacy can be detrimental to your health over the long term.
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04-15-2008, 10:19 PM
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I've never twisted my wants to conform to society..
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Woo down with conformation!
Well I'm not sure I agree with there being no point in drugs. They have their ups and downs and I can never see myself taking more than a little.
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[19-38-23] Mr.Goblin: ~Void~, yo, dude .. tell me your secret for behing such a good terrain maker, do you smoke illigal things? to get that inspiration?!
[23-19-42] Dr Super Good: dam hindy and his balls gaining infinate blody velocity
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04-15-2008, 10:39 PM
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see me personally i would only ever drink alcohol, which i do alot as it is basically englands national past time and ecstacy or MDMA because it has great positive effects, with virtually no adverse affects if taken in moderation. which is unlike pretty much every other drug, even coffie, where even if small amounts are taken over a long period of time it can do damage; ecstacy, unless taken in large amounts all at once, doesnt really harm you, infact, studies have proven that people who take ecstacy once a month have a considerably lower chance of becoming depressed. infact the most common drug misconceptions is that ecstacy can be detrimental to your health over the long term.
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You do realize that for the effects of ecstasy to occur,your brain has to take permanent damage,just like with any drug.
Sure,take it once,you wont experience much problems.Take it twice,same thing.
Take it once a month,and look yourself in the mirror in 5 years.
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04-16-2008, 02:38 AM
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What's worse, taking brain damage from E or rapidly killing yourself by smoking 4 packs of cigs a day?
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04-16-2008, 10:15 AM
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I don't know anyone capable of smoking 4 packs a day.
When i go over 10 cigs a day,i start coughing and the enjoyment is gone,and i feel nauseated from a cigarette smoke from the next 12 hours.
Yes cigarettes are bad,but 98% of the normal smokers(the ones who go over 2 packs a day are just masochists)can go on with their lives without any trouble.
And almost any damage caused by smoking can be fixed by quitting.5 months after you've quit,you'll be as good as new ,presuming you didn't already get something.
Everything is hazardous when overdosed.
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