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03-16-2008, 10:19 PM
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21st October: Reconstruction of the Big Bang
I heard that a large group of scientists from all over the globe will conduct an experiment in order to recreate the Big Bang,in a huge underground laboratory on October the 21st.It is said that this will be the largest scientific event ever.The lab itself will be the biggest scientifical institution ever built.
Now they are claiming that what they are doing is completely harmless,since the experimental area is well-isolated,and that they are only trying to make a "small" Big Bang,in order to see how the world developed.
The temperature created by the Big Bang is 10 squared by 23 degrees.If just one thing went wrong,or even worse,if they successfully recreated such an explosion,the whole world would go to waste.Its practically an attempt to create the biggest explosion ever,what it can do is,mildly said,terrifying.
So im interested,whats everyone's opinion on this?Are you afraid they might blow us all up,or do you think its a good thing?
Edit:I meant "recreation" instead of "reconstruction" in the title,but i cant change it now.Can a mod please fix this?
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03-16-2008, 11:23 PM
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Well, that's humanity for ya. Always trying to find out answers to questions nobody asked... and blowing themselves up in the process.
By the way, is that temperature degrees Kelvin, Celsius, or Fahrenheit? And for comparison, what's the temperature of a nuclear explosion and the sun?
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03-16-2008, 11:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pyritie
Well, that's humanity for ya. Always trying to find out answers to questions nobody asked... and blowing themselves up in the process.
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the question: how did the world begin?
i think this is quite an important question.
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And for comparison, what's the temperature of a nuclear explosion and the sun?
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the centre of a nuclear explosion is 25 times hotter than the surface of the sun i think, which is about 12.5 million degrees K.
me personally, i think this is a good thing, but perhaps not neccessary.
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03-18-2008, 12:46 AM
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When they first split an atom, the did it on a Tennis Court, insulated and such frirst I think. They didn't know if they could containn the reaction or how they would stop it, and that was just for a weapon.
I think it will be ironic if in their quest to find an answer to the origins of the universe, the end it.
I don't want them doing it. It is a stupid risk. We would all like to know how the universe began but I prefer safety over the possible destruction of Earth.
Doing the experiment underground could be worse than doing it on the surface of Earth. More force would be exerted on more earth and explode outwards quite like the comparison of a firecracker on your palm and a firecracker in your fist.
[ OFF-TOPIC ] Japut3h, use the [sup ] and [/sup ] for your powers, like in 1023 degrees (Kelvin, Celcius or Farenheight)
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03-18-2008, 06:04 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Modo
When they first split an atom, the did it on a Tennis Court, insulated and such first I think. They didn't know if they could contain the reaction or how they would stop it, and that was just for a weapon.
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It was on a squash court. Squash court to squashed enemies, eh? ^.^
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the centre of a nuclear explosion is 25 times hotter than the surface of the sun i think, which is about 12.5 million degrees K.
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Whoa, a little crispy there, GST. Sol's surface is about 5,800 kelvin.
As for recreating the Big Bang, that would be interesting if it succeeded, but I suppose possibly disastrous if it failed.
I'm all for such an experiment, just keep it out of my backyard.
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03-18-2008, 09:42 AM
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Doesn't this mean they finally figured out how to control fusion? As far as I can remember, big bang was an explosion from a (or serveral) HUGE star-like thing(s). So they would have to create one of those and fusion would be the only way. So instead of making power plants with it, they blow it up...hehe, I just hope they don't do the experiment in Europe, otherwise I don't really care.
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03-18-2008, 11:28 AM
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The problom is that its impossible to sustane the amount to energy to keep the big bang stabe
without the eyenrgy it needs it falls apart
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03-21-2008, 12:53 AM
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They need to do it on 20/12/2012
Not only is the number awesome, it's when the Mayans predicted the apocalypse.
Just by suggesting that basically answers the question, I think it's one step further in science. If we all die, so what, because our entire point of being here is to advance as far as we can and then die. If I may make a reference to a video game, in Halo you aren't just going to play up to the 6th mission or whatever and when things start getting hard, just stop and restart the level again and again. No, you are going to push through until you either beat it or lose it, in which case everything starts over again, i.e. another big bang or evolution all over again.
It's just on a much grander scale.
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03-21-2008, 08:55 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TDR
Doesn't this mean they finally figured out how to control fusion? As far as I can remember, big bang was an explosion from a (or serveral) HUGE star-like thing(s). So they would have to create one of those and fusion would be the only way. So instead of making power plants with it, they blow it up...hehe, I just hope they don't do the experiment in Europe, otherwise I don't really care.
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The Big Bang came from the explosion of an incredibly energetic spec.
Nobody has sufficiently explained what happened before the Big Bang.
Lightning is hotter than the surface of the sun, yet people get struck by it and live.
The reason? Lightning does not sustain the heat.
I don't know what the experiment entails, but it's gonna take more than a few subatomic particles to destroy the Earth.
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03-21-2008, 07:43 PM
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Nobody knows what happened before the big bang because according to the theory, NOTHING happened before the big bang.
People survive lightning attacks because firstly they are struck for like a nanosecond, and lastly because the surface of the sun really isn't that hot. It's the radiation that would fry you, or the core, which is 15.7×106 degrees kelvin, or 15,700,000 degrees kelvin, compared to the corona's 5,000,000 degrees kelvin. That plus radiation = you dead.
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03-22-2008, 05:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hakeem
The Big Bang came from the explosion of an incredibly energetic spec.
Nobody has sufficiently explained what happened before the Big Bang.
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I know! Some alienish scientists tried to recreate the big bang in their backyard
I'm personally fine with the experiment. If something does go wrong, well... a man's got to die one day, you know... And if everything goes according to plan, who knows what we might learn.
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03-23-2008, 06:17 PM
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I don't think that humanity as a whole has access to enough energy to create a big bang that could destroy the earth, I doubt a bunch of scientists will.
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03-23-2008, 09:35 PM
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I'm right, you're wrong.
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To destroy earth, doubtfully. To eradicate all life from its surface, I think we're already capable of.
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03-24-2008, 03:10 AM
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Mostly not dead
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Why would we need to eradicate all life on the earth with something fancy like a recreated big bang when we could just nuke everything and wait for cockroaches to take over?
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03-24-2008, 11:58 AM
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eltiT resU motsuC
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We need to use a Big Bang for a couple of reasons:
1) To see if we can make a Big Bang
2) Because it is called a Big Bang and we must quanitfy big.
3) Irony. Instead of creation, we find destruction.
Seriously though, the Big Bang was a random quantum fluctuation that spontaneously came into existence, was filled with all the non-existence that there was before. The non-existence converted into energy, super heated and exploded the random fluctuation so that the point of existence had dimensions and became space. Once it started to expand, time started. I don't know how you could prove/disprove that, let alone perform an experiment with it.
I honestly believe it is just a chance to make new weapon technology.
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