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Old 05-29-2008, 01:45 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Q&A 39 - Another mapmaking one.

A new mapping-related Q&A for starcraft came out. You can find it here.

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As development for StarCraft II moves forward, so is the Map Editor for StarCraft II. We have no doubt that there will be countless awesome mods created for StarCraft II, so we want to make sure your Map Editor questions are definitely not left out of the Q&As. Keep the questions pouring in!

Also, in Batch 38, it was mentioned that Sunken and Spore colonies could move and plant off of Creep while also taking damage when not on Creep. To update, Zerg defenses will not be able to plant off of Creep.

Chat with Devs: Batch 39 focuses on the development of StarCraft IIs Map Editor and I got a chance to chat with our Map Editor Designer, Brett Wood. Brett was able to answer quite a few of our community map editors below. Furthermore, he wanted to also add that the StarCraft II Map Editor will improve upon the World Editor from Warcraft III in every way, with several new features such as having all abilities in the game being data driven. Brett Wood elaborates here on what it means for all data in the game to be data driven:

[Brett Wood] Lets say you have a cool idea for an implosion type of ability that will rapidly shrink down a targeting unit, then cause an energy shockwave that damages all nearby units within a certain area. Since there is no standard ability with a shrink-down effect, in Warcraft III youd have to resort to some fancy trigger work to achieve this effect. In StarCraft II, this kind of effect can be set up completely in the data files, and you could make the entire ability without having to use any triggers or scripting at all. Generally speaking, setting up abilities and effects will be easier through data customization than using triggers, although there will definitely be a learning curve there as well.

As always, feel free to give the Dev Team and I a w00t if you are enjoying the Q&As!

---StarCraft II Q&A Batch 39: Map Maker Series---

1) Will the new map editor support placing of traps, doors, and other things commonly referred to as doodads in unorthodox situations? (ie doors, auto guns, wall traps in a jungle map)

Yes, any object defined in the data files can be placed on the map, regardless of which tileset it is normally associated with.

2) Will the new map editor support extended upgrade values? (ie, 30 upgrades)

Yes, upgrades are arbitrarily extendable, as they were in Warcraft III. In addition, upgrades will now be downgradeable via triggers as well (by using a negative value), which was a very common request in Warcraft III.

3) Will the new editor still support all the other ideas currently implemented in StarEdit?

This question is a bit vague. As far as I know, everything the original StarCraft could do, StarCraft II can do.

4) What additional features will the new editor have?

How much time have you got? Very broadly speaking, the biggest improvements over Warcraft III will be found in the data editor, where literally every game database file is exposed for modification, and in the trigger dditor, which now features the ability to define custom functions and libraries. That said, virtually every aspect of the editor has at least some improvements over Warcraft III/StarCraft.

5) Do you plan to take ideas from third party programs and update the editor frequently to meet the demands of the map making community?

Absolutely. We are very much committed to supporting the map/mod community as much as possible, and well be keeping an eye on the forums and updating the editor as often as we can to incorporate new suggestions.

6) Will be a tool to transfer WC3 models to SC2? (battle.net) -Ragnarok_X

No, there will not be, as StarCraft II is built with a totally new engine.

7) Given that we know the Roach regenerates faster than normal, will players be able to change the regeneration rates for Zerg units? (battle.net) DrakeClawfang

Yes, all regeneration rates can be easily changed.

8.) Will players be able to give units Protoss shields or Zerg regeneration that don't normally have them? ie, a regenerating Zealot, a Ghost with shields, etc. (battle.net) DrakeClawfang

Yes, you could create a Roach-Zealot hybrid if you would like. Many passive abilities can be interchanged similarly.

[added from thread] 9) Is the new StarCraftII map editor able to make our own 4th race by combining 3 races different looking and ability etc. together? even more combining with some new units from the editor? (battle.net) -cS)beta

Yes, custom races are fully supported, including the ability to choose them from the game lobby while playing melee maps, as long as the mod defining the race is loaded.

I'm sure you guys will love that :) I know I'm excited!

--End of Transmission---
I presume you've all allready seen the other mapping Q&A's, but what do you think of this?
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  1. Rather head-in-the-sand question.
  2. Rather head-in-the-sand question again, but a good answer this time: negative upgrades!
  3. Really head-in-the-sand question.
  4. Pleasing the GUI people, that part doesn't affect Jassers. Though an extended Object Editor should be interesting.
  5. About time.
  6. Eh, Warcraft III models wouldn't fit at all anyways.
  7. Another head-in-the-sand question.
  8. Another head-in-the-sand question.
  9. Another head-in-the-sand question, but the lobby thing is nice!
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4) What additional features will the new editor have?

How much time have you got? Very broadly speaking, the biggest improvements over Warcraft III will be found in the data editor, where literally every game database file is exposed for modification, and in the trigger dditor, which now features the ability to define custom functions and libraries. That said, virtually every aspect of the editor has at least some improvements over Warcraft III/StarCraft.
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4) What additional features will the new editor have?

How much time have you got? Very broadly speaking, the biggest improvements over Warcraft III will be found in the data editor, where literally every game database file is exposed for modification, and in the trigger dditor, which now features the ability to define custom functions and libraries. That said, virtually every aspect of the editor has at least some improvements over Warcraft III/StarCraft.
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So what? Everyone makes the occasional typo.

Please don't stray into random off-topic chat.

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''Given that we know the Roach regenerates faster than normal, will players be able to change the regeneration rates for Zerg units? (battle.net) DrakeClawfang''

OMFG! A totally new feature!
Why did he even answer that thing?
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What a silly waste of question and answer...
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He needed 9 questions I guess.
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It's either that, or he can't be bothered to answer the more 'technical minded' questions :P
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Acually, If you look at that thread, some people were like "Wow... Just image what we could do swiching abilitys!!1". He awnserd it because, no matter how dumb it is, some people wanted to know it. o.0
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It's because many/most of these people think that the StarCraft editor is still new-age.
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It's because many/most of these people think that the StarCraft editor is still new-age.
This site is a living proof of wc3 editor owns. Shame on them.
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Well I for one am happy to see that Blizzard at least is planning on supporting the SC editor as opposed to how they pretty much ignored the WC one (as far as I know)
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Well I for one am happy to see that Blizzard at least is planning on supporting the SC editor as opposed to how they pretty much ignored the WC one (as far as I know)
What do you mean? The WC2's editor didn't have trigger but SC's editor had it.
The SC's editor sucked but they made huge improvements to the WC3's.
The WC3 had lots of limits but they are going to fix that in SC2' Editor.
They continue upgrading the editor with every game they release.
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He means actively support the editor, and he's right about that. I think all we got since TFT was UnitDamageTarget().
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