Spell Making Contest #1

Contest theme:
1. Creating a triggered spell

Contest rules:
1. No spell may violate the site's rules.
2. Are allowed imported models.
3. No copy of already made spells
4. Spells must be in GUI
5. Spells must be multiinstanceable (MUI)
6. Completed spells must be attached to the contest thread.
7. Credits to authors of imports must be given in the contest thread allong with the already made spell.
8. The theme of the abilities are still in moderation.
9. The map must be unprotected.

Judging Criteria:
1. Is the spell MUI?
2. Is the spell made by GUI?
3. Does the spell lags?
4. How good are the effects?

Deadline:
7 days after the contest begin date.

Awards:
First Place: 30 rep
Second Place: 20rep
Third Place: 10 rep

Originally Posted by Wizardum

2. Map size must be under 1Mb.

If a map for a simple spell got anywhere near 1MB I'd be very worried.

5. Spells must be in GUI

What's so bad about JASS?

9. The base theme of the abilities are blink, slam or spell channel.

Usually spell contests follow a theme, not being based off of an ability.

11. The spell can be done in WEU.

If you're thinking of the advanced triggers in WEU, please, don't use them. They leak all over the place and hardly work any more.

We already have spell contests every now and again in the Spells and Systems forum.

The map size was just to the interested ones on the contest don't abuse on the special effects models import and stuff

I'm participating in this contest too, and I don't know how to use JASS, at least yet, so I think it would be more balanced if all participants work on a GUI spell.

Ok, but I think making a spell based on another ability, brings the contest more originality, and brings us more original spells

It's optional if the spell is used on WEU or not, almost everyone knows that using advanced triggers lags pretty much, it's just a personal choice.

I didn't know that most of spell contests were there, I thought it was here where all contests should be posted.

Originally Posted by Wizardum

I'm participating in this contest too, and I don't know how to use JASS, at least yet, so I think it would be more balanced if all participants work on a GUI spell.

Crappy excuses. Because you can't comprehend JASS scripts I don't see you being a very good judge for a spell making contest. I wouldn't approve it as it is right now even in a million years! I'm curious though what the mods have to say about this...

And spells based on another ability? Again... laaaaame! Original is coming up with new spells and new ideas! This contest is terrible, and I MEAN IT! "Classical" contests can bring up some fabulous results, and they suddenly do not make the contest so "boring". Seriously now... why the hell make hundreds of variants of blink, when people can come up with many other things? You just limit the entries too much. Come up with a broader theme! Ice is a good theme! Spells based on Frost Nova is a lame theme (infact, it's not even a theme).

And another thing...

Originally Posted by Wizardum

I'm participating in this contest too

Rrrright... both participant and judge. That sounds damn objective to me.

-Daelin

Originally Posted by Daelin

And spells based on another ability? Again... laaaaame! Original is coming up with new spells and new ideas! This contest is terrible, and I MEAN IT! "Classical" contests can bring up some fabulous results, and they suddenly do not make the contest so "boring". Seriously now... why the hell make hundreds of variants of blink, when people can come up with many other things? You just limit the entries too much. Come up with a broader theme! Ice is a good theme! Spells based on Frost Nova is a lame theme (infact, it's not even a theme).

Agreed.

But I do like the idea of a GUI-spell contest. In every spell contest people always submit Jass spells because they think they can't win if the spell isnt in jass. Well, that also happens to be true :). I learned Jass ages ago so I could pwn in spell contest (which I now have :D, ok well it wasnt the ONLY reason :)).

A GUI-spell contest could be held as a mini contest on the spells&systems forum (similiar to for example the cinematic mini contest, map dev. mini contest etc.). That would level the playingfield a bit. Ofc the spell pro's can enter this contest too, but they would have to get down and dirty and make some GUI :).

Spell contest... in GUI only.... simply sucks. period.

Spells... in GUI... simply suck! :))

What do you poop-heads know :)

The average GUI spell does suck, but only because the maker doesn't know how to use it to his/her full potential.

Sure, you can't exactly make Hash Table Reverse Unit Algorithms with it, but still.

What's the problem of don't know how to work on JASS? I'm trying to learn ok? All of you should be more polite.
And the contest being based on some abilities was on purpose, limit the entries bring some originality.
But I think this disagreement of my contest is just about the JASS.
Just because you don't want to work with GUI you don't need to talk that way. Maybe here is some oportunities to other members that don't know how to work with JASS enter and show what they are capable of. Next you should ask before offend. It's time to some maturity and respect to the other THW members, this is a community not fighting arena.
BTW not all spells in GUI sucks, some are very well made.

A GUI contest would be fine. I'd probably join it.

However, things like "you must base it on one of these abilities" is just silly.

I wasn't talking about entries limits... Infact, you would get a lot, but because they are based off the same ability, they would be so similar to one another that the whole originality thingy would be lost! Exactly my point.

As for the lack of JASS experience, yes, it is a flaw when it comes to judging a contest. Seriously... I agree that it's nice to learn. But then leave someone else to judge this contest. Judges should be individuals who have lots of experience in the domain they are judging (in this case, spells). And yes, a good spellmaker can make some hell awsome stuff in GUI, but the coding would be simply disastruous (especially in terms of memory use, and not to mention all those useless BJ functions) and I could say the same about the implementability of the spell in another map. Loads of information to copy-paste. You don't know JASS? How about getting one those numerous tutorials and learning the language, step by step. Nagging is useless, learning has a purpose!

And don't talk to me about lack of maturity and respect. I've been through hell a lot of experiences that have required these from me, and you have no right to tell me that I lack these qualities... full stop!

-Daelin

Originally Posted by Daelin

You don't know JASS? How about getting one those numerous tutorials and learning the language, step by step. Nagging is useless, learning has a purpose!

I'm waiting for the class to reopen 8D

First I didn't say that I would be the judging one.
Second I talk about lack of maturity because no one here was treating each other with respect.
Third this is my first contest so I don't know some details of a contest. The contest submission asks for an idea and I gave mine, so the people that are interested may give suggestions but not judge for my contest inexperience. I saw the idea of making spells based on a ability in WC3C and the reaction there was great, then I thought that you people may be interested too, but maybe I was wrong.

BTW there is someone teaching me JASS personally, so I'm really trying to learn it