Pending Maps

i also want to ask whats the pending maps and whats the diference between them and the other?

Originally Posted by Ash

Do you agree that epic war sucks dick in the moderation and general map quality, department?

So do we, at the moment. Trouble is, there is around a 30 page moderation queue. That's down to the moderation team, in part, myself including. There is no way to bring ourselves back from that state, unless we wipe the slate clean and start again. Myself, and others of course, are going to take an active role in making sure this doesn't happen again. And, now let's be truthful, all we're asking you to do is click a button. It doesn't take time and it, certainly, doesn't take effort. Deleted maps, along with those deleted before the 'great wipe', are going to be completely wiped from the database and you won't be able to see their thumbnails, this means that any previously removed map can be re-uploaded.

TL;DR; if you cared for your map, then you'll care enough to press a button. If you didn't submit the map and it's still pending, then resubmit the map when we've cleaned the database.

We need both the community and the moderation team to work on this together and, fingers crossed, we'll be able to recover from this issue, and give hive the good name, that it deserves, back.V

I agree with Ash. A lot of the people who post maps are people with 0 posts who really don't care if their map gets moderated or not. This isn't epicwar.

It's the right thing to do to get rid of the pending maps, not only to ease our staff's work load but to get rid of those kinds of maps.

Pending maps are maps that are waiting to be reviewed by the forum map moderators. Once at least one of the map moderators has reviewed the map, if he sees fit, he will approve it which basically guarantees that the map is not offensive, not pornographic, belongs to the submitter(unless stated otherwise), etc.

So you mean that a pending map is a map waiting to be tested by a map moderator and see if something is wrong?

There are 4 status' in the map section;

1) Pending, this hasn't been reviewed by one of our... 'dedicated' reviewers just yet. It branches off to

--->2) Rejected; your map has been rejected, this is due to it either A) Not being good enough, or B) Against our Rules

--->3) Approved; map has been reviewed and tested by a moderator/mini-mod, it is of, at least, decent quality and doesn't break any rules.

--->4) Deleted; the creator/moderator or, in some cases, admins delete a map because they feel like it.

I would also like to say that I disagree to the person who mentioned that 'approved maps aren't offensive'. Maps must be of, at least, decent quality to get in. Although, admittedly, the standards here are lower than WC3C -- I moderate both, before anyone mentions anything to the contrary.

I'd also like to say that most, if not all, of my reviews take 15+ minutes to write, not including the time it takes to play the map, re-play the map and re-play the map again; I look at a lot more things than just the hives 'rules'; I judge everything in order to give it a fair mark.

Hope this all helps a bit, guys :)

and a moderator tests a map whenever he wants or the map creator must do something so that a moderator must test it???

As moderators, we have what's known as the 'moderation queue'.

It lists maps (oldest to newest) that need either need approving or rejecting.

Originally Posted by Ash

As moderators, we have what's known as the 'moderation queue'.

It lists maps (oldest to newest) that need either need approving or rejecting.

yes but i asked in order to approve them we the map creators must inform you or do something else, or you check them whenever you want

We do the mod queue, and random ones from the list... >_>

Originally Posted by Ash

We do the mod queue, and random ones from the list... >_>

oh nice. i hope you will see my map

Originally Posted by CMarket

What are you talking about?! There is no reason for Rui, who has been moderating maps as far as the Hive exists, to kiss Ralle's ass. He even made a user group dedicated to map reviewing and now things will be much easier.

That was a bad joke.
For the record, I myself suggested the idea of deleting all the Pending Maps.

Well im not sure about this but what if you created a temporary reviewer (well ofcourse it can't be anyone). So with all of these Pending maps being uploaded to the site, the results of APPROVED or REJECTED would go faster, for people who don't know how to type a good review there's a tutorial on good reviewing on the Tutorial tab.

Besides I was going to upload mine after I was finish but with all of these pending maps im gonna wait.

That's my tutorial, whoop whoop :D

But, back to the point at hand. There are 31 pages (now) of moderations which roughly give you (20*31) 620 maps to moderate.

As I said earlier, just writing a review takes me around 15 minutes -- I write in full, of course -- that would mean that, without the time it takes to play the maps, it would be a very long time before you're finished. 93 hours straight, if I've done my maths right. However, as I've also said, it takes longer to do some maps than others -- on average I play a map 3 times -- and you need a rest at some point.

All in all, you could easily be looking at 150+ hours to moderate every map on this site, something which isn't really viable, as much as we'd like it to be.

I think it is really the map moderator's fault...

They left those pending maps to be pending...

Majority of pending maps are pending, not because it was unattended of the creator but because the mods didn't bother or liked the map...

BUT, delete pending maps ftw...

Originally Posted by Ash

That's my tutorial, whoop whoop :D

But, back to the point at hand. There are 31 pages (now) of moderations which roughly give you (20*31) 620 maps to moderate.

As I said earlier, just writing a review takes me around 15 minutes -- I write in full, of course -- that would mean that, without the time it takes to play the maps, it would be a very long time before you're finished. 93 hours straight, if I've done my maths right. However, as I've also said, it takes longer to do some maps than others -- on average I play a map 3 times -- and you need a rest at some point.

All in all, you could easily be looking at 150+ hours to moderate every map on this site, something which isn't really viable, as much as we'd like it to be.

Ok how about a 2nd idea shut down the upload button until most of the maps are done reviewing im sure people are patient like me to upload it another time besides they could always try hosting it on B.net if they can.