Zephyr Contest #11

Bannar · Mar 4, 2014

@Kyrbi0 post poll or smthing. Speed this up.

Cokemonkey11 · Mar 4, 2014

Opinion: Release the zephyr today with vjass only. Start designing a judgment criteria and concept for THW's first Tinker Contest #1 (A software engineering contest)

More contests is better

Bannar · Mar 4, 2014

More contests is better

+1

However, it seems contests start rather slowly nowadays.
It might be actually ok to give peps more time to accomodate with wurst and one last time do vjass-only zephyr? Don't hurt muzzel's sausage too much though.

Kyrbi0 · Mar 4, 2014

Spinnaker said:
@Kyrbi0 post poll or smthing. Speed this up.

Lol, I don't need to be in charge of another contest (unless it's a Hero/Race contest

).

Bannar · Mar 4, 2014

Last time I've read your avatar it stated "power overwhelming" >

TriggerHappy · Mar 5, 2014

Wurst should not be allowed. Cokemonkey11 did a great job on explaining why.

and I think muzzel is the only one who cares lol

gorillabull · Mar 5, 2014

when does this start, what is its theme, and when does it end?

muzzel · Mar 5, 2014

TriggerHappy said:
and I think muzzel is the only one who cares lol

U just hate me because i dont like your bot.

Bannar · Mar 5, 2014

I once got blacklisted because I've protected the minority. Sorry muzzel, I give up xd

TriggerHappy · Mar 11, 2014

So, BPower and Cokemoneky11 are gonna judge?

Can we get someone to write the description for Aura in relation to the contest (to include in original post)?

Kingz · Mar 11, 2014

So the theme was decided already?

TriggerHappy · Mar 11, 2014

Kingz said:
So the theme was decided already?

I thought everyone chose Aura, unless I missed something?

I just want to get this contest started.

Tank-Commander · Mar 11, 2014

Though the matter of date still hasn't exactly been addressed

Kyrbi0 · Mar 11, 2014

Kingz said:
So the theme was decided already?

Not really. However,

TriggerHappy said:
Can we get someone to write the description for Aura in relation to the contest (to include in original post)?

Sure, I'll try my hand at it:

~Aura~

As your Champion enters the field of battle, you feel a surge of vigor; the very presence of your people's Hero swells the heart and lends encouragement! Intangibly, the Aura of this individual affects all who witness it.

Your task for this Zephyr Contest is to create a spell that primarily revolves around an Aura, here defined as a "Persistent effect upon nearby targets, which passively grants boon or bane, it being centered on the Hero". That would include:

Increasing/Decreasing Stats (i.e. Devotion (+armor), Endurance (+MS/+AS), Brilliance (+Mana Regen), etc)

Providing an extra (generally Passive) "Ability" to affected units (i.e. Thorns (gives Damage Reflection (ala Spiked Carapace)), or Vampiric (gives Lifesteal), etc)

Every X seconds have Y Effect occur (NO INGAME EXAMPLE; DOES THIS WORK?)

ANYTHING ELSE I MISSED?

This "Aura", however, may be utilized/brought about in a variety of ways, at the discretion of the user:

Always-On (i.e. most normal Auras)

Activated (Toggle) (i.e. Immolation (Damage-Over-Time Aura))

Activated (Temporary (i.e. Big Bad Voodoo (Invulnerability Aura)), or Starfall (Direct-Damage Aura))

I THINK THAT'S ALL?

Good luck!

Thoughts? Threw this together with help from Tank-Commander and Adikutz. Just a rough draft (especially the CAPSLOCK parts); agree/disagree with the parameters as described? Especially the definition. And I'm not so sure about "damage-dealing" auras like Immolation & Starfall (well, OK for Immolation, since it leaves a buff?)). Hmm...

P.S. Interestingly there are no "Offensive/Combat" Auras in the entirety of the regular Wc3 line-up; all Auras provide enhancement in some way or another. Strange... I wonder what that means?

Cokemonkey11 · Mar 12, 2014

Kyrbi0 said:
Not really. However,

Sure, I'll try my hand at it:

~Aura~

As your Champion enters the field of battle, you feel a surge of vigor; the very presence of your people's Hero swells the heart and lends encouragement! Intangibly, the Aura of this individual affects all who witness it.

Your task for this Zephyr Contest is to create a spell that primarily revolves around an Aura, here defined as a "Persistent effect upon nearby targets, which passively grants boon or bane, it being centered on the Hero". That would include:

Increasing/Decreasing Stats (i.e. Devotion (+armor), Endurance (+MS/+AS), Brilliance (+Mana Regen), etc)

Providing an extra (generally Passive) "Ability" to affected units (i.e. Thorns (gives Damage Reflection (ala Spiked Carapace)), or Vampiric (gives Lifesteal), etc)

Every X seconds have Y Effect occur (NO INGAME EXAMPLE; DOES THIS WORK?)

ANYTHING ELSE I MISSED?

This "Aura", however, may be utilized/brought about in a variety of ways, at the discretion of the user:

Always-On (i.e. most normal Auras)

Activated (Toggle) (i.e. Immolation (Damage-Over-Time Aura))

Activated (Temporary (i.e. Big Bad Voodoo (Invulnerability Aura)), or Starfall (Direct-Damage Aura))

I THINK THAT'S ALL?

Good luck!

Thoughts? Threw this together with help from Tank-Commander and Adikutz. Just a rough draft (especially the CAPSLOCK parts); agree/disagree with the parameters as described? Especially the definition. And I'm not so sure about "damage-dealing" auras like Immolation & Starfall (well, OK for Immolation, since it leaves a buff?)). Hmm...

I like everything. I prefer a more generalized description than an overly specific one. There are a finite number of passive abilities one can make following the style of warcraft.

P.S. Interestingly there are no "Offensive/Combat" Auras in the entirety of the regular Wc3 line-up; all Auras provide enhancement in some way or another. Strange... I wonder what that means?

It means blizzard is either lazy or did not think of any. It has nothing to do with balance. Edit: Actually, wouldn't Kodo War Drums be classified as offensive/combat?

Kyrbi0 · Mar 12, 2014

Cokemonkey11 said:
I like everything. I prefer a more generalized description than an overly specific one. There are a finite number of passive abilities one can make following the style of warcraft.

I too prefer a generalized description, though it must be the average; too focused and you have (well, to be honest) the issue with a lot of our previous Zephyr Contests; waaaaay too focused ("Demonic"? "Assassination"? "Portal"?). Too general, and you have people making pretty much any spell. I hope this achieves the proper level of generalization (if anything, parts of it might be a tad too general, but I wanted to avoid the inevitably-boring results of a "regular Passive Auras" contest (really not a lot that can be done with that that hasn't already, IMO).

Cokemonkey said:
It means blizzard is either lazy or did not think of any. It has nothing to do with balance. Edit: Actually, wouldn't Kodo War Drums be classified as offensive/combat?

I don't know about that. I am fairly certain that Blizzard put oodles of thought into nearly every game decision (though I'd love to find some design documents that prove me right/wrong). I'm just not sure whether it was intentional or negligence, to start with.

And no. While the Kodo War Drums (& Command Aura) both enhance Attack Power (Damage), so does Trueshot... Thing is, it helps in combat, but it's not a purely "offensive" aura. By "offensive" I mean "lowering enemies stats" (rather than "enhancing friendly stats"). There are no in-game "negative Devotion" or "negative Command" auras, for example (plenty in custom mods, but none in Wc3).

Kingz · Mar 12, 2014

TriggerHappy said:
I thought everyone chose Aura, unless I missed something?

I just want to get this contest started.

I thought there was gonna be a poll is all.

Kyrbi0 · Mar 12, 2014

Kingz said:
I thought there was gonna be a poll is all.

I agree; don't let my attempt at writing a thing for "Aura" let anyone think it's been decided. A Poll is no problem; have we suggested all the ideas we want (is the only question)?

TriggerHappy · Mar 12, 2014

What should the options be in the poll?

Kyrbi0 · Mar 12, 2014

Well, why not just everything that's been suggested so far? I've heard Aura, Mechanical, Seduction, Blood Magic, etc etc... Make it a multi-vote poll if there are enough options.

//EDIT// And leave an option for "Other: Please Describe", so people can insert their own.

Kingz · Mar 18, 2014

Topic seems deadish, someone should just put a poll already or something.

Kyrbi0 · Mar 19, 2014

Kingz said:
Topic seems deadish, someone should just put a poll already or something.

*sigh*

Almia · Mar 19, 2014

Then what about double-edge? Though Aura seems to be fit for the next contest because we haven't seen some Passive ability contest.

Kyrbi0 · Mar 19, 2014

Almia said:
Then what about double-edge? Though Aura seems to be fit for the next contest because we haven't seen some Passive ability contest.

What about 'what'? I combed through the whole thread and didn't see that as a suggestion... But if you want, just vote "Other" and write in "Double Edge". I left that option for a reason.

Almia · Mar 19, 2014

Actually, Im going to stick with Aura

Kingz · Mar 19, 2014

Kyrbi0 said:
*sigh*

Oh... must be blind.

Kazeon · Mar 20, 2014

I guess aura is still the best option. beside

Almia said:
Then what about double-edge? Though Aura seems to be fit for the next contest because we haven't seen some Passive ability contest.

is right, the other theme is not pretty clear for me :>

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